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[Official] AFC Divisional Texans @ Chiefs

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    I will never understand why NFL owners and coaches don't demand rule changes. Why not have roughing the passer calls, or unnecessary roughness calls quickly reviewed automatically? Secondly, why don't owners and coaches want to change the rules? Why wouldn't they ask to be able to challenge any penalty call they want to, or challenge any play they want to, when a penalty went uncalled? I've never understood that.

    It's bad enough when officials show favoritism in calls, but even worse when guys like Mahomes bait players into penalties like trying to draw fouls. Whether it's some last second slide, or baiting, Mahomes does it well. An obvious example of that was the second part of that clip where he almost slowed to a stop at the sideline, then flopped out like he was unnecessarily roughed out of bounds. It's what Curry, Harden and others learned to do in the NBA, manipulating the system by intentionally drawing fouls and flopping. This is why coaches should be able to challenge any play they want to use that flag on.



    The problem with biased officiating is that officials can choose to ignore or call things like holding any time they want to, and it can change the outcome of any big play. So, why not be able to throw a flag if you see obvious holding that was ignored, if it ended up allowing the QB to throw a TD to win a game?

    Again, stop treating quarterbacks differently than any other player when they choose to run with the ball past the line of scrimmage. It's ridiculous. They already get treated with kid gloves when they get to slide to avoid hits at the last second behind the line of scrimmage. You see the same BS with the "favorite" types in the NBA. Change the rules!! People always say, it will make the games too long. I say BS. A challenge flag is a challenge flag, regardless of which play you throw it on. Not only that, give them more challenges. Show the stupid commercials during challenges, instead of at scheduled commercial breaks.
     
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    I had a fair amount of respect for Mahomes for a while. He's so gifted that he really didnt need to buy into that persona of being insulated. Its bad enough that the calls are being made in his favor, but now he's out there actively looking for the flag and brought flopping into the sport. b****made behavior.
     
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    THIS...

    I went into the game knowing there were going to be calls like the one against WAJ and Henry Too Too. But what I didn't expect, and I havent watched Chiefs games closely enough to know, was Mahomes on that play running out of bounds (AFTER ALREADY GETTING MULTIPLE QUESTIONABLE CALLS IN HIS FAVOR) and pulling up right before the line and letting them run into you and flopping OB.. That was the weakest **** I have ever seen on a football field. He didn't get the call, but even trying for it was so sad. As a soccer player, that is something you do to draw a foul, but people cant just run into you in soccer. Doing that in football is so ridiculous and I will never see him the same.
     
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    I don't think it's talked about enough but even on that WAJ play, Mahomes flopped. Honestly, I can't be mad at him for doing it because you try to win by any means necessary. If CJ did that, would we actually hate him for it? It's the refs/NFL job to see things like that and make the correct call on those plays.
     
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    The NFL created this problem, but the Chiefs have embraced it, making it a part of their game plans. Mahomes going limp after being touched or stopping before running out of bounds to target a defender to run into. Some might cheer if CJ did the same. Maybe the NFL would address the issue if CJ and others started doing it too. I don't want him too.
     
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    It's just like how Harden sought out fouls by slinging out his arm, or trying to hook it into a defender's arm while driving to the rim. It's the same crap so many guys do flopping in the NBA and in soccer. It's crappy and ridiculous, but they know that as long as they can get away with that crap it gives them an advantage. Like I said before, all calls should be able to be challenged. As long as team owners and coaches don't push for that change, then it will always continue to happen in sports. Now, that being said, I completely agree that all players aren't treated equally. That will never change in sports anymore than in life as long as humans decide the outcome, and don't vote to change what's wrong with a broken system.
     
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    The floppy stuff has always been a part of basketball though. Harden turned the volume up to max no doubt, but it was happening before and now 'foul hunting' is even seen as a way to maintain efficiency at the free throw line.

    Football is tough by design. Guys get knocked out. Guys have gruesome injuries. Its what drew many of us to the sport to begin with as young players and we all understood what we signed up for. We were taught to keep our head on a swivel and be ready to get earholed at any moment. Knocking out the QB was a strategy. The sport is becoming more and more unrecognizable. You cant play football at half speed. You cant expect big, fast men to defy the law of physics at a moments notice. You cant give the offense a noticeable advantage by putting one position in a bubble and then rewarding him/them further when bending the already slanted rule(s). Its a complete travesty to the essence of the sport.

    edit: If CJ were doing this crap I'd be on his ass too. My sister and her husband live in St Louis and are huge KC fans and they said they were a little embarrassed by what happened vs the Texans and while the win is loved obviously it has a weird negative buzz to it among that fanbase (deservedly so).
     
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    This is completely different from trying to sell a call in basketball, or a WR flopping to try to draw a PI. The rules are put in place to protect qbs from getting hit in the head. He's using his head as a weapon to draw flags, which is completely against what the player safety rules are there for. What mahomes is doing is MILES worse and completely incomparable to what harden/curry or any other basketball "flopper" do.
     
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    CJ missed a wide open Nico for the TD here, and then got hurt because of it.

    He needs to be better.
     
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    It's an easy fix, just like I said before. All owners and coaches have to do is vote to change the rules so they can challenge any play. It's stupid not to do that.
     
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    Instead of modifying the rules/sport just put everybody in those guardian caps and get back to playing football the right way.
     
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    They wouldn’t have overturned either play if the texans challenged. Not a chance in hell.
     
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