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Ocasio-Cortez tweets and other news

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Aug 26, 2018.

  1. tinman

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    Wrong
    Woke people on the d&d support AOC therefore she must be the next president
    @ROXRAN
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    AOC single handedly made white people think LatinX was a real word
     
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  4. Os Trigonum

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    not seeing any outrage anywhere here
     
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    What? The conservative media machine making this into an issue isnt bad faith outrage?

    This is a tried and true aspect of right wing propaganda grift machine. Find some esoteric academic leftist literature exploring new concepts and spam it to oblivion on social media as if this niche esoteric idea on this one random graduate level assigned book is something to be existentially fearful of.
     
  6. Os Trigonum

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    who's talking about the conservative media machine? I don't really follow the conservative media machine
     
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  7. fchowd0311

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    Reason is part of the conservative media machine
     
  8. Os Trigonum

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    if you say so
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    Ya man a think tank that tried to push privatization of everything is part of the conservative media machine.

    Its a literal conservative think tank. Conservative think tanks are notorious for laundering the concept of initial examples of think tanks that actually had sincere researchers but unfortunately their conclusions often sided with leftist narratives so conservative businessmen decided to launder academic research through bad faith think tanks that tried to show credibility through how think their stack of research was.

    This is a routine aspect of right wing conservative think tanks. There is no sincerity to them because their entire goal is convince Americans that privatization of everything helps them.

    Conservative intellectualism is held up by bad faith grifters trying to maximize their return on investment rather than seeking knowledge through sheer intellectual curiosity. Conservative businessmen underarms the core of their base are car dealership owners and crypto grifters. Hence try need some veneer of intellectual merit and they use think tanks to launder it.
     
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    6'6/215-220
     
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    Probably the first funny thing you’ve posted here.
     
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    Geez for real?? I’m 6’0” about 165. I need to gain some weight again getting too skinny :(
     
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    I'd like to gain some muscle. I play tennis, but I haven't been lifting. My excuse is that I travel all the time, but it's just a lack of discipline. I have access to several state of the art gyms, and I really have everything even at home. Getting up there in age, one loses muscle by doing nothing.
     
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    You have to attend classes or get a personal trainer, it's worth the money.
     
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    I just watch YouTube and independent personalities like

     
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    Casper Schmikel?
     
  17. Os Trigonum

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    I don't consider "right-center" to be part of any machine, any more than a source that is "left-center" is part of the lefty/liberal/media "machine"

    I think a balanced news diet is more healthy than a non-stop, exclusive reliance on one particular ideological echo chamber. I read The NY Times and the Washington Post as carefully and thoroughly as I do Reason and the Wall Street Journal. I wish more folks here would do the same.

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    Pro publica has a left bias but I understand that it's motivations are based in sincere investigative Journalism because they are a non profit registered as a journalistic outfit.


    Reason is a think tank. Think tanks are structured purposefully to allow corporations and business leaders to fund "research" without it being obvious they are funding it.

    Like I said, conservative think tanks are notorious for laundering a veneer of intellectualism behind their policy positions.
     
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    https://www.city-journal.org/article/trump-mass-deportation-illegal-immigration

    Don’t Call Trump’s Plan “Mass Deportation”
    It’s a propaganda term that doesn’t describe the specific detention and removal plans of the new administration.
    Seth Barron
    Jan 21 2025

    Since the second election of Donald Trump, activists, officials, and journalists have written repeatedly about the coming “mass deportation” of illegal immigrants. The National Immigrant Justice Center has put out a fact sheet warning its clients to “prepare for Trump’s mass deportation threats.” The ACLU observes that “Trump has repeatedly sought to rationalize his plans for mass deportation, blending military and national security rhetoric with xenophobia.” And Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, at a rally calling for Temporary Protected Status for Ecuadorians illegally residing in the United States, warned that Trump plans to deploy the “military to conduct mass deportations” of “those who serve as the backbone of our local economies.”

    “Mass deportation” is a propaganda term that does not describe the detention and removal plans of the new administration, and it is not used by Trump or his representatives. Mass deportation is the wholesale detention and removal of an entire community based on nationality, ethnicity, or some other immutable characteristic. For example, Stalin engaged in large-scale reorganization of the population of the Soviet Union based on nationality, beginning with the mass deportation of 170,000 ethnic Koreans from their home on the Sea of Japan 4,000 miles west to Uzbekistan. Later, during World War II, Stalin’s secret police chief Lavrentiy Beria deported 200,000 Tatars from their home in Crimea thousands of miles to the east.

    Other historical mass deportations include Andrew Jackson’s ethnic cleansing of Native Americans from the Deep South and their forced removal a thousand miles west, in what is known as the Trail of Tears. The removal of 112,000 ethnic Japanese from the American Pacific coast during World War II qualifies, too, as does the mass deportation of millions of Jews from German-occupied Europe to concentration and extermination camps in Poland during that same conflict. Mass deportations are indiscriminate in that every person associated with a national or ethnic group is rounded up.

    In contrast, the Trump administration’s plans are targeted. The focus, as Trump and his representatives continue to stress, will be on persons who already have an order of removal against them and on illegal aliens who have committed crimes. At Trump’s October 2024 rally at Madison Square Garden, which the Left condemned for its allegedly racist and fascistic themes, he promised to “launch the largest deportation program in American history to get the criminals out.” Tom Homan, his border czar, has elaborated on this plan, explaining:

    Every person ICE arrests, they do what we call fugitive operations spreadsheet. They know exactly who they’re going to arrest. They know exactly where they’re probably likely to find them, and they have a lot of information on that arrest. Other people that are there that may be illegal, they’ll handle by case-by-case basis. The concentration—I want to be clear on some public safety threats. If more agents in the jails means less agents in the neighborhood, that’s why I’m pleading with sanctuary cities, let us in the jail to arrest the bad guy. That way you’re not forcing in the community.

    More than 1 million people presently residing in the United States are subject to a final order of removal. These individuals include legal immigrants convicted of a crime who have lost their legal right to live here, others who violated their visa conditions, and illegal immigrants who were caught and brought before immigration courts. They have already gone through a process of review and appeal, and judges have ordered their deportation. The government knows who they are, and, as Homan explained, where they live. Arresting and removing this population is a matter of catching up on deferred adjudication. Its scale may be massive, but that doesn’t make it a “mass deportation.”

    “Mass deportation” as a term has the same function as “mass incarceration,” in that it makes normal law enforcement sound like a fascist violation of civil rights. But there is no “mass incarceration” in America, because everyone in prison committed crimes as an individual, for which he or she received—or was supposed to receive—due process. They weren’t rounded up as part of a police operation against an ethnic group or tried and found guilty en masse.

    Activists and politicians may not want their constituencies to be deported. But the fact that illegal immigrants awaiting removal are here in large numbers is not a compelling argument not to deport them. Nor is deporting them a “mass” action in violation of due process. “Mass” is a term of art that the Left employs to deprecate legal action against favored groups. Proponents of public order shouldn’t use it.




     
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    Out of the so called 20 million humans Trump is trying to deport, how many are considered Caucasian? Give a estimated percentage. No "I have no idea". Just a guess based on your perception.

    Hitler and Stalin played games of plausible deniability of their atrocious actions all the time.

    When a president makes up fake stories of entire ethnicity groups stealing and eating American pets, when he says that migrants poison the blood of this country and then follows it up by blaming everything wrong in America because of illegal immigrants and then says he wants to deport 20 million...

    These are the context clues that make it obvious that the Trump administration is targeting entire ethnic groups.
     

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