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Life-threatening' windstorm fans fires in Southern Calaifornia as blazes burn in Los Angeles

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  1. Rocket River

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    Folx seem to be enjoying their misery a little too much

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    Not really - if you have spent any real time there.

    There are certainly issues in California, like there are problems in Texas, NY, FL and the rest of the world.

    However there are a lot of very creative, smart, well educated and ambitious people in the hubs in California and it has traditionally appealed to other similar people across the world.

    For at least 60 years there have been prominent scientists discussing the fact that California is not over populated and that people have moved into areas that are not meant for high populations.

    California has been hit hard the last 7-8 years and it has lost some of it's middle class for 15 years and the last 6-7 years has lost some of it's wealthiest people. Having said that, it is still teeming with wealth and appeal - and most likely will come out of all of this fine long term. I expect the political environment will change some (but not as much as some likely hope) .......... but this is something that the USA as a whole needs to be aware of, places like California, Florida and Texas are facing some serious issues that can control population growth and efficiency and are struggling with home insurance.
     
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    The owner of the LA Times isn't really a "leftist" and has tried to get a cabinet position with the Trump administration and has praised some of those around Trump. He appears to be an opportunist more than anything, which is the case with most of those around Trump and also a lot of higher-level businesspeople.
     
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    You are having trouble grasping my point, and then making up arguments and attributing them to me. That's not a sign of a winning argument. No qualified candidate is a DEI candidate. I repeat, a DEI candidate is an under qualified employee hired to meet a diversity goal/quota. So the entire premise of your post is flawed. Furthermore, you lack experience in legal matters and employment law if you think that discrimination lawsuits and EEOC claims are rare. Additionally, the mere threat of a claim or lawsuit is enough to avoid the situation entirely. Bad press, costly, headache, drama. No thanks.

    I hire on merit and on performance standards. If you don't meet those tests, then you don't get a pass because you are minority. I'm sorry. That's not fair to the company. I also avoid legal risks whenever possible, and if you bring a protected class into the company, just know that you'll have a fight on your hands if they don't work out and you have to make a change. Democrats have created that situation with their laws and policies and once again, Democrat policies make it HARDER, not easier, for minorities to be hired.

    GOOD DAY
     
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    This is the best explanation out there about everything the right is trying to plaster on Democrats & Newsome, and an explanation as to why California actually is still at risk and has not been able to properly saturate vulnerable areas during droughts.



    It's a question of cost, time, and energy. Does Newsome ask Californians to pay more in property taxes to create a trillion dollar water desalination system, and a pump system to take that fresh water UPSTREAM to irrigate these areas of California? Does the Federal Government ask Congress, and Congress ask it's people to fund this type of project?? I mean we are actually talking about Geoengineering much of southern California for crying out loud as really the only answer to the challenge.

    Answering this problem creates other problems that right wingers would surely have a MUCH MUCH bigger problem with I'm sure.

    So if you care about this as much as you are acting like you do... call up Ted Cruz, and ask him to sign off on a giant infrastructure bill to build desalination plants along the West Coast.

    If you DO NOT CARE and are fine with California burning down to the ground, or maintaining the current system of relying on upstream reservoirs from snow melt in the Sierra mountains primarily than what the hell are you doing wasting your time here talking about it for? If you do not care go away. If you do actually care.... Call Ted Cruz, and tell him you are a MAGA Republican who cares about forest fires and would like the federal government to pay for the infrastructure to handle it better.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    When a job position opens up in society do you believe in the notion that one human exists on the planet that is "the most qualified"? That's not humans work. Usually for almost any job, there is a pool of people all qualified and what distinguishes one person over another is merely "vibes".

    This creates a scenario where the existing group of people disproportionately in power (white men) will naturally chose other white men because they relate to each other. They banter well with each other. It has nothing to do with merit. A black woman could be just as qualified for that same position but maybe she isn't part of the Dodge Ram fanclub or she doesn't go to the gun range and is a gun hobbiest. Less relatability.

    Do you understand when you say stuff like this you are essentially saying "a black woman does not exist on this planet qualified for this job".

    How do you square with that belief and still believe you aren't an abject racist?
     
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    a DEI candidate is anyone who isn't typical of the group of people you currently have working for you. So a black woman in a sea of white men is DEI candidate by definition of what DEI means - yes.

    You stated it's not the headache to hire such a person if you have a competent white man. Those are your exact words. Obviously anyone not qualified for a role shouldn't be hired for that role.

    Democratic polices don't affect who gets hired or not. I've hired plenty of people and never once was I given direction based on anything but my own judgement and the input of those I trust. I've seen people hire people who they are comfortable with - people of the same race and background - tons of time and that person being unqualified. I've seen a lot of unqualified white men get hire or put into positions they didn't have the experience for. Let's not forget that.

    And I've also seen candidates - really talented ones - turn down jobs because they didn't want to stick out like a sore thumb in a sea of white men.

    In reality, you can hire and build your team/company however you want. And you can pretty much fire anyone you want (states that are not at-will are red states actually - so that's a Republican policy) so long as you are doing so for legit reasons.

    Your argument here feels dishonest and at best, spurious.
     
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    @Salvy @ROXRAN
    Where was the national guard when the Nike store got looted or other businesses cause George Floyd made people want to get Jordan’s
     
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    Nope, they're just reaping the rewards of their decisions. Why should the rest of the nation have to help pay for their bad decisions?
     
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    Just like we are paying those living in Florida?
     
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    So . . . if they are non-white/female/lgbqt+/ . . .they are automatically under qualified?
    Cause that seems like that . . . never have I seen you or anyone like you point out a DEI person who was a white heterosexual male
    In fact . . . I have never seen you criticize any white heterosexual males as being under qualified.

    Heterosexual White Men get a pass on EVERY FRICKING THING
    Literally trying to get someone that was in the National Guard for like 15 minutes to run our Dept of Defense?!??!?!

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    And you guys want to annex Canada and Greenland?!?!

    You think Greenlanders and Canadians have environmental policies that align with your right wing climate denialism agenda? You think taking care of Canada and Greenland when they have natural disasters is going to be a cake walk when you can’t handle California being part of the union but running their own local agencies??

    You guys and your cleric Trump aren’t making the best case that you can handle any more land to manage and support at the federal level. Seeing you all whine and blame makes me believe Trump should actually be selling territory not buying if he can’t handle it and his followers do nothing but whine about it.
     
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    I suspect the DEI talking points are there as a distraction to get us talking about this. Say something obviously bigoted and sexist, you call him out, and he gets faux angry that you aren’t being civil, rinse repeat.

    The issue here is climate change and the need for more federal investment in infrastructure to basically geo engineer parts of the country that are at a growing risk.

    This troll knows he can’t have that conversation because he knows he won’t be able to say he supports that kind of investment which will increase taxes, and he knows Newsom won’t further increase taxes at the state level to pay for it.

    So let’s make the conversation about weak women not knowing their place in the kitchen because defending that is actually easier and more fun for him than actually making a call to Ted Cruz’s office and pressing him to support a climate bill.
     
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    Conservatives are again proving they aren't really about accountability or honesty.
     
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    You had no problem helping Texas, Louisiana, and Florida for their bad decisions......? Why the change?

    Remember Texas cost the country +$100 billion for its big freeze and conservative legislators in Texas still haven't winterized our grid.
     
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    But the Rs are doing a remarkable job on getting white men with a proclivity of sexual misconduct high ranking jobs like AG, Secretary of Defense, SCOTUS justice, DOGE Edge Lord, etc.
     
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