I think JG is doing well. He's carried us to several wins, we're 2nd in the West, exceeding expectations. And some fans are still nitpicking. However, like I've always said, we will see JG flourish when he gets a RUNNING MATE, a player who suits his style of play. We saw how much FVV helped Alpi last yr. Now that Amen is in the lineup, hopefully he does the same for Jalen. I think that should be the theme going forward, rather than looking for him to fail.....HATERS
His reads are getting better...last few games I've seen him make some good hockey passes which in the past he would jack up the shot. Next up is making the right pass when driving in. He is a crazy athlete and make some amazing plays at the rim, but most times he forces up a layup because he misses the cutter or the open shooter in the corner.
DD I missed judge you! I honestly thought you knew basketball. Players are GOOD by themselves but they become GREAT when they have another player to enhance their play. EVERY great player had a running mate to make him great! Jordan and Pippen Magic and Jabbar, Worthy Bird and McHale Hakeem and Clyde, Thorpe Shaq and Kobe, D-Wade I'm beginning to think YOU ARE A HA-TER!
I dont think JG needs to be great he just needs to outperform his contract. So far I would say he is overpaid at 33M but that doesnt start until next year. Hopefully he can continue to improve over the next 3 yrs.
Still kind of "arbitrary endpoints", essentially picking the start of JG's hot streak last season as the beginning of the sample. But at least this one is a pretty meaningful sample size of 60 games. That's good to see as an overall trend. If those numbers became his new normal it would be a substantial improvement that we so far haven't seen from in on an entire season basis. And if he could take one more small step forward from there, to something like 24 points on 58% true shooting, he'd legitimately be good enough to be the #2 scoring option on a contender. Let's see where he sits at the end of the season. Given his poison pill contract status, I definitely would not try to trade him at the deadline.
If everything is arbitrary then nothing is. Producing 20+ ppg on a ~54 win level team at age 22 does say something about Green. It's not that often that guards this young provide this many points in a team with this high of a winning percentage. Almost all young guards who put up this many pts are usually doing it on tanking teams. The ones who do put up this many points at this age on 50+ win teams usually end up being first second team all NBA level players. The irony of Jalen Green is that his current discourse would have been better if he was on a tanking team because his numbers would be inflated but his long term career path would be worse. The current discourse is very trivial at the end of the day so I'm glad Green is going this route even at the expense of current discourse being overly harsh on him.
Totally cherry-picked. I think Jalen is getting better, but if you want to be honest it would be better to show a relationship of good to bad games. Because of his high usage a 3 game streak of really hot shooting can skew a dozen mediocre nights. 60 games was definitely chosen to include his hot streak in March. I think Jalen is here to stay at least through next year and I'm good with that, unless a true superstar like Ant or Giannis becomes available and Jalen has to be included.
I mean, it's very clear that the poster intentionally chose February 29th, Jalen's first 34-point game against the Suns which kicked off the best stretch of his career so far, to begin the sample size. Like, I get it, I'm a homer too and like to boost our players, but it's not exactly throwing a dart at the board and seeing which random game it lands on. As with all of these kinds of posts, there's clear bias at work, is all I'm saying. That said, I do think Jalen has shown some overall meaningful improvements to his game in the most recent part of his career, and I'm happy about that. Let's hope he can keep it going! Edit: So basically what Hemingway beat me to saying
We need to define "cherry picked" because I feel like it's just a tern used for "when someone that isn't my favorite player has a favourable statisical metric in something".
Cherry picking is picking some arbitrary date that is followed up by a small sample size. A 60 game stretch especially for a young player still progressing? No it really isn't cherry picked because that would require a small irrelevant sample. Its literally just 60 consecutive games. It isn't like "the last 60 games he had above a 45% fg%" or "last 60 games that were on a full moon" or "last 60 games that were held on a weekend".
That isn't really what cherry picking means. NBA com even has basic metrics for "last ten games" for example. Is 60 consecutive games is too small of a sample for you when we've seen ba analysts very frequently use things like "last 5 games" and "last 10, games" and here you are angry at someone using.... The last 60 games. This is absurd man. Don't die on this hill.
I'm not gonna get in a big argument with you, but I'll just say I've never once seen "the last 60" used as some kind of normal term to judge by. Let me put it another way--do you really think it's a coincidence that the sample starts on February 29th, Jalen's first 34 point game against Phoenix? Either way, I guess there's not much left to discuss here, so agree to disagree I guess.
Yes because "last ten" was a number discovered by statisticians as the relevant number? "Last 10" is just a nice number to look at in our base 10 numerical system. Again, to my original point of "if everything is arbitrary, nothing is arbitrary ". Find a date where you can find a player starting to put up generally more favorable numbers is arbitrary if the following sample size of games is very small like 3 games. Then things like "hot streak" could be used. 60 consecutive games is too large of a sample to be arbitrary unless it's some caveat of 60 games like "the last 60 games a full moon was present". With your logic btw you should never praise when Alpi or Amen gets a triple double. More than "10" is.... Arbitrary.
I think the part he doesn't like is that the sample was intentionally bookended by hot streaks. Like if you have any player who alternates between hot streaks and cold streaks, you can choose a sample that begins and ends on a hot streak. It doesn't make the numbers any less true but I can see how someone is bothered by choosing the sample that way.
Someone chose 60 consecutive games starting from when he went from playing like ass to mid to great. Yes that is the point of bringing up any stat that has the "last x number of games". The arbitrary part comes in when the sample size is very small or they aren't consecutive games that use some arbitrary qualifier like "on days where there was rain outside".
