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What went wrong for Kamala?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Nov 6, 2024.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    She definitely wanted it the moment she ditched being a half-term Senator for the job. Like you said, she was in over her head, and didn't distinguish herself in any VP roles other than symbolic tiebreaker. I really think Biden jobbed Kamala by making her a no-win immigration czar.

    I suspect her awkwardness was half personality and half the fact that her own political clout and charisma wasn't strong enough to resist offending interest groups and parties she owed favors. That whole "I have a glock" moment was so weird and unnatural to the point where even if some consultant handed her a gun a month ago, they would've hashed out a legit story. I think she walled up, as usual, because she didn't know what to say that wouldn't make her "lose points."

    All this would've been hashed out in a legit primary process, which isn't her fault and more the fault of the guy who picked her to fullfill a comittment with southern black voters (and #MeToo for some reason...)
     
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  2. durvasa

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    Maybe. Or maybe Republicans will convince themselves that whoever was the Democratic nominee would be a catastrophe for the country.
     
  3. Tomstro

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    Worse is thinking Kamala was good for the country
     
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  4. FranchiseBlade

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    We'll never know. But it's clear she had a firmer grasp on the issues than the candidate that said he had concepts of a healthcare plan he promised would be delivered 2 weeks into his first term, lied about his rally numbers, claimed Haitian immigrants were eating people's pets, doesn't understand how tariffs work, or how windmills work, or the constitution works.
     
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  5. Tomstro

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    And he still won, and thats my point
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    He absolutely won. That isn't really an indicator of which candidate had a better practical understanding of the issues and specifics.
     
  7. GOATuve

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    But it is. Nobody takes Kamala seriously. Trump was indicted on multiple felonies and he still won the election. That shows how terrible of a candidate Harris was. She didn't have a handle on anything. If the dems run Newsom next term we'll have the exact same result. You could run a tree against him and it would win. People are sick of the far left.
     
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    Far left candidates like Kamala are done on the national stage for decades. Smart democrats and their media cabal are all pivoting to the middle. If they don't, Republicans will rule for at least 8 years. Woke has been put to sleep.
     
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  9. DaDakota

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    She is black and a woman.

    nothing else matters.

    DD
     
  10. Tomstro

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    Only the left feels that way.

    That’s why they lost
     
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  11. GOATuve

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    That's all that matters to you. Most people saw her as unchasmatic and not fit for presidency. People like yourself are why the country is divided. I guess you forgot that Obama was president. People were also suggesting Michelle and think she would have beaten Trump.

    Like normal, you're wrong about everything. All you do is ruin Rockets careers and parrot far left politics.
     
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  12. GOATuve

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    Remember, he's wrong about everything. Him supporting Harris was probably the nail in the coffin
     
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    Remaining a Democracy and keeping someone out of the White House who is openly promising a corrupt billionaire catering autocracy was seen as good for the country by those who voted for Kamala.

    I don’t see why that part is always left out of the conversation as a way to paint democratic voters as stupid sheep. There’s the lack of decency from MAGA people that they demand for themselves after voting for Trump to understand why they voted the way they did.

    There’s no way any democratic voter should ever feel like they were somehow in the wrong or duped into voting for Kamala no matter how hard someone like you tries to create that self doubt.

    If you don’t believe in democracy that’s fine.. vote for Trump. But if you do it’s the easiest decision you’ll ever make to see a flawed but perfectly decent candidate in Kamala running vs a convicted criminal who is openly running on throwing out the constitution and becoming a “dictator on day 1” all the while his policies all center around nothing but billionaire giveaways and bad economic policies for the middle class that’ll make prices higher.

    It’s the easiest decision I’ve ever made in my life and while you might not agree with it because you prefer a corrupt billionaire driven autocracy that’s fine… but don’t sit here and treat the rest of us as uninformed dupes. Have at least a hint of respect.
     
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    Takes more than just being a black woman
     
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    Honest question...why are the people who dislike Kamala labeled as MAGA? As far as I can see, most people just disliked Harris so much they voted Trump. That's exactly what happened when Biden was erected.

    You can try and spin it any way you want but it's the truth. Ypu want it your way but that's not how the world works. Run trash like Kamala and you can copy and paste your post in4years and replace her name with Newsom.

    There's little difference between them. She slept her way tothe top and he's a criminal. Great. We were screwed either way. Trump is at least capable of getting something done. Kamala doesn't even know the pledge of allegiance. She just laughs when she doesn't know what to say which is always. In case you didn't notice , there are very few Trump supporters here. Never Harris . Just like you did with Biden. Don't be a hypocrite
     
  16. GOATuve

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    That's all that matters to the far left. Convenient excuse. Place the race and gender card
     
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    What are you talking about? Why are you injecting race into the discussion?

    I just said that her being a normal pro-Democracy former Senator, former VP, former AG, etc. was enough to make it the easiest decision ive ever made vs a convicted criminal literally running on being a dictator on day 1.

    That has nothing to do with her race or gender. Not sure why you MAGA people are so obsessed with identity politics.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Most on the right have never voted for a woman, or an African American, they don’t want to recognize their racism or misogyny.

    DD
     
  19. dobro1229

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    I thought you put me on ignore? You obviously don't care to listen to anyone other than your own diluted voice in your head that is trying like hell to convince yourself you are right so why bother responding to me?

    Whenever you get done going through whatever you are going through, come back and talk to people in a way where you actually listen to them instead of just talking to them like an online troll. Until then, be prepared to be "labeled as MAGA" if you are just going to keep up with the bot like nonsense.
     
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    lol
     

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