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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    HE IS WHAT HE IS VC!!!
     
  2. kpdark

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    Amen signals for a lob pass

     
  4. Stephen_A

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    I hear what you're saying but I disagree. Boston's offense is pretty simple and they are stacked with shooters and all 5 players can attack the rim. But again they don't run their offense through Porzingis or a Center. They have a lot of spacing playing 5 out and they play heavy iso. And somehow Pritchard is a great 6th man now. Udoka likely thinks running the offense through his center gives this team the best chance to win. But there are a lot of structural problems with the personnel to run this offense. Besides there is absolutely no movement on this offense off the ball or after an initial action. A little baffling.
     
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    Those "fans" are the lower bowel of the toyota center wrought with Irritable Bowel Syndrome. They are both annoying and terrible and you just want to shi+ them out but can't.
     
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    You know I really wonder if Udoka and his staff looks at advanced metrics like TS% as much as Rockets fans. Does he look at TS% for all players line by line then and tells the team:

    “Hey yall gotta get your TS% up to league average. This aint good enough! This TS% is the difference between winning and losing in this league! Yall understand this?!”
     
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    From the looks of it. Ime and his staff don't look at offensive stats at all. Or film for that matter.
     
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    Folks always like to gloss over defensive improvements and team record as they proceed to complain about green.

    His ts, 3pt, and fg seems consistent but if folks think rookie green and this season iteration are the same thing, that just straight up delusional

    He's trending up just not as fast as folks want. Patience and let's see if ime can coach him into the next level
     
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    lol I know Ime doesn’t cause he always puts JG back in for those last second shots be it shotclock or end of qtr/half

    most of the folks who complain about his TS% ignore those shots and the fact he doesn’t get a great whistle (it’s just a reason they fall back to when he starts getting on a roll)
     
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    This thread is a metronome.....we a few guys vs them a few guys....always the same conversation.

    Back and forth.

     
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    it's funny that all Green needs to to do "ascend into the next level" is make 1 more 3 a game and get 1 more generous whistle on his drives.

    that's why some of us are still believing in him. i'll be honest though, i never expected for him to make the strides hes making defensively.
     
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    That might not seem like much but it would increase the net rating by like 4.7 points, which is worth around 13ish wins. It’s the difference between going 48-34 and going 61-21.
     
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    Yeah -- a guy who can get you the kind of buckets that very few players can. Rim pressure out the ass. His unique skill will shine in the playoffs.

    No human discretion allowed!! Pure statistical analysis only! Nuance is for the birds!
     
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    Why is this funny? Do you not realize how big of a deal this would be, how hard it is for a player to do this, and how much of a difference this would make? You're saying it like this is some trivial small task. If Jalen did this we would be 28-6 and in the OKC/Cleveland tier. This would be huge.
     
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    So its not easy? The prospectus is staring you right in the face and instead of being fascinated by the possibility its instead a sht posters paradise and a statistics party with hardly any discretion or scientific interrogation beyond the raw numbers. Its right there and you guys wonder why we "stan".
     
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    I'm not sure what you're trying to say. But no, it's not easy. The point I'm making is that the gap between any current NBA player, and then that same player plus one made 3 per game, and also 1 extra foul call, is massive. That is a huge gap and a huge ask. It's not as simple as "if he just did this one simple thing...", it's actually a really REALLY big gap.

    To put this into perspective with an example, if Jalen Brunson did this he would be better than SGA. He'd be averaging 30 ppg on 71% TS. Does that make it make sense? What's being suggested here is an enormous leap in ability and production. It's not some small simple thing.
     
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    Bingo!
     
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    the real question is whether this thread ultimately passes up the franchise player thread in post count . . . ;)
     
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    A certain thread has fallen to the 2nd page do we allow it?
     
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    by all means
     
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