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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, May 18, 2022.

  1. JHarden713

    JHarden713 Member

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    OJ, not saying he did it or not, but if he had a shitty lawyer, he would of rotted in jail. But he had Robert Kardashian which was one of the best lawyers in the country at that time.
     
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    More than you think. Plea deals are often used to threaten young poor black teens telling them you might get life but the DA is willing to drop to manslaughter and 10 years.

    With our legal system there are two general trends that coincide. If you are poor and the state does not have enough evidence to convict they will try to sneak in a plea deal weaponizing the naiveness and poverty of a poor teenage black male convincing them the court will definitely convict and accept the 10 year deal even if they didn't do it. Often their own public defender will advice to accept the plea deal because the public defender simply doesn't have the time and resources to draw out an actual trial.

    If you are wealthy and the state does have significant evidence towards you, a plea deal is offered. Basically the opposite.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    This is about all racial disparities in murder convictions but it does include this

    "32% of murder exonerations in the United States are white defendants. This is in contrast to the 55% of murder exonerations that are Black defendants."

    https://www.google.com/search?q=est...icket-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

    I think it says more about the types of murders each group commits
     
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    100%, if you get a court appointed lawyer, he doesn't even have time to look over your case (just briefly). As opposed to when you spend some money on them, they'll find a detail where either a cop messed up, or something, which can get you less time or even a mistrail.
     
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    And this is after the "crime" is committed. We won't even get into the socioeconomic issues which caused it to begin with.
     
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    Kind of difficult to extrapolate what that number means. It could mean the that the accusation of people for murder against black people without sufficient evidence is responsible thus even with inadequate defense they are still acquitted at a greater rate. It could mean that with more accurate means of analyzing evidence such as DNA there is a better chance for defendants to get a fair trial. It may not mean any of that, but without out further understanding of all of the factors involved we won't know, so it is basically a meaningless statistic.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    If the accusation was inaccurate it probably was another black kid. Race is an easy marker
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    @FranchiseBlade

    Most black murders are random, most white murders are offended knowing victim, that's why those statistics are what they are
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    I don't believe that is accurate.

    According to this site the majority of black murder victims did know their killer.

    https://vpc.org/press/nearly-90-percent-of-black-homicide-victims-killed-with-guns-study-finds-2/

    For homicides in which the victim to offender relationship could be identified, 76.5 percent of Black victims (3,202 out of 4,184) were killed by someone they knew. 


    I'm willing to look at other data if you have a link.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    When I wrote that I thought about gang violence and rival gangs killing other gang members they know but I thought I looked this up and posted a link before but I can find the thread. I'll try to find where I got that but not having any luck so far. I'll keep trying just telling you why I wrote that
     
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    Gabs bumped this thread to say
    And y'all just hop instantly into debate from a different 2 year old post on racial murder statistics lol
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    I think this is part of the general problem with politics. People just go with what they feel or seems right. It's easy to do. Certainly media will focus more on gang violence and that kind of crap, so it's easy to believe that is the lion's share.
     
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    The reason I chose this thread to write that is because I was watching Fox News and they were talking about the New Orleans attack and criticizing Biden for saying white nationalism as the biggest threat in our country. I agree with that but Islamic terrorism isn't a threat either in terms of organized threats.

    The New Orleans attacker was also a mentally unstable person and later that day I saw another report on the United Healthcare CEO killer and they talked about how some of his family members said they weren't surprised he did it even though he was social and had friends

    The Fox report talked about a report the Biden administration received about threats and the top threat was Russia. White nationalism was very low on the list
     
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