Should we applaud him for this or be mad at him? I don't even know what Jaters want anymore. These days they forgot they said he'll never be a good defender and are mad he's not a "great" defender, something they never even asked for to begin with lol.
No point in making fun of Green. Defensively Green has continued to improve - offensively he really has not this season.
Why have almost every high usage offensive player under Ime have career low scoring efficiency numbers? He improved defensively? How? Through increased energy expenditure. Now appy the first law of thermodynamics and you hopefully understand my point.
Jalen Green wasn’t efficient or very good offensively before Udoka either and he had Brown and Tatum when they were still breaking out. I’m not blaming Ime Udoka for Jalen Green being inconsistent and inefficient on the offensive side - he has been that way his entire career. Green has gotten stronger- his effort and performance has greatly improved since Silas. Green deserves credit for that. However offensively - Green has been very frustrating. That is really his only major issue at this point. He needs to be more consistent and efficient. Let’s see what happens.
Blaming Udoka? Udoka is who might save Green's career from being a mere 6th man to a star guard. He needs to go through this type of conditioning because it's better for his long term career. Green should be on his knees praising Udoka. Jalen Green before Ime in his second year at age 20 with no expectations to try much on defense similar to the situations that guys like Booker found themselves in for their first 5 years of playing on tanking team averaging 22 ppg on 54% ts pretty much the exact same efficiency and volume as Booker in his second year. That scoring average at age 20 is like 7th highest in league history. You telling me Green going from his second to third year wouldn't be able to match Booker's third year numbers if he stuck to a tanking team that allowed him fee reign on offense within f caring for the other side of the court? Ya I think his scoring trajectory looked very similar to guys like Booker but magically in his third year he decided to regress offensively? Or is their a chance a new system, a new demand to try on defense at a high level , new high usage players he has to learn to play with isn't going to impact his third year numbers? Maybe it takes a season or two to get the cardio conditioning down to try at a high level on defense and still have your legs to shoot consistently. Young players are less injury prone. But young players have worse cardio conditioning than vets who've been used to playing 35+ mpg for years in the NBA.
Yeah watching him play defense isn’t a chore anymore. I thought he was doing well on Tatum last night. Just the Boston wings all hit the weights.
And yet, analytically smart teams, companies, and people vastly outperform their peers in virtually every walk of life. Are there exception? Yes. But they're almost all highly talented people with years (if not decades) of experience. For everyone else, the "eye test" performs worse that choosing at random. Even Morey noted that he had to put a ton of effort into not being swayed by a particularly good or bad workout. Some of his scouts even stopped going because they realized they couldn't be objective after watching a workout. Fighting confirmation bias, dunning-kruger, etc. is constant gorilla warfare. Now, obviously, you can't use statistics blindly. You have to study the methodology and understand what, precisely, a metric is measuring.
The people doing the analyzing never did math beyond entry level calculus you take in high school here. They spit advanced analytics with zero intellectual curiosity in regards to how these statistical models are crated and have no idea of the confounding factors in these models and how to properly contextualize them. In this setting, yes eye test is more valuable than some random dude who failed algebra in high school spitting out "EPM" or "RAPTOR" or "LEBRON".
There's 3 kinds of people in this world, those who embrace statistical analysis, complete morons who don't understand statistical analysis, and the dishonest sophists who sometimes pretend to embrace statistical analysis if they think it can help push their narrative and reject it when it doesn't.
And you're not wrong, i've argued with them exactly the same. The "Jokic with better defense" nonsense is no different than what the 4-5 most crazy jalen people say. Only difference is sengun has ACTUALLY been a good player, while jalen has not.
And who's eye test is so much more valuable than the metrics? What you're saying would make sense if the people doing the analyzing were creating the metrics, but i don't believe epm and raptor and all that were created by clutchfans members.
You were partially correct, I think JG and Sengun are about the same. However, I'm curious to see what JG looks like going forward now that Ime is allowing him to lead the offense more.
