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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    You actually think that would be stated in the articles of association? lol
     
  2. IBTL

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    AroundTheWorld is also a moron, much like Bobby.
     
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  3. basso

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    for the seksy babes, I recommend ClothOffFriday (no need for hashtags on X:


     
  4. TheRealist137

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    I never said that. Do you think those articles are proof?
     
  5. durvasa

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    This article goes into it a little more:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna181029


    Far-right X account Libs of TikTok, which is known for targeting trans people online, criticized Bluesky on Thursday, posting screenshots of articles written about the platform — one written by Singal about the death threats he said he received, and another about child sexual abuse material (CSAM) on the platform.

    Bluesky has seen only a handful of instances of people posting CSAM, Rodericks said, when compared to the levels seen on other platforms, but the numbers are increasing.

    In 2023, while the site could only be accessed through invitation and before it had opened to the public, there was only one verified complaint to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, the U.S. organization tasked with tracking online exploitation. This year, Rodericks said, there have been over 830 CSAM cases, each of which the company investigates manually. Most major social media platforms report much higher rates of CSAM. In 2023, X reported 273,416 instances of CSAM on its platforms, according to the center. Instagram reported 11,430,007.
     
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  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Calling Libs of TikTok "far right" is framing in itself by NBC. I'll leave it at that.
     
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    You're a dumbass. I'll leave it at that.
     
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    I am seeing other sites have started to embed BlueSky "tweets"/embeds, so it is likely a matter of time before the BBS library supports it and @Clutch installs it.

    It is a Brave New Day ;)
     
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    I think the real question here would be, why would enabling embetds from a fringe extremist platform that has issues with illegal sexual content be valuable?

    Should they enable embeds from other fringe extremist platforms too?

    I just fail to see the value added by bluesky or truth social embeds. Normal people don't use those kinds of platforms for a reason.....and all of the content that matters still comes from Twitter/X, if there was anything of value on those fringe platforms, it would just be reposts of what is already on platforms that matter catering to the extremists.

    Anyone care to try and explain?
     
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  11. DaDakota

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    Blue Sky is a better version of Twitter, and it has moderation to account for laws - it is dedicated to exposing misinformation - unlike FB and X which don't protect truth.

    It doesn't lean left or right, just deals with facts.....and that bothers some people because it exposes the truth.

    DD
     
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  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Okay, can anyone attempt to explain without outright lying?
     
  13. DaDakota

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    https://www.logicallyfacts.com/en/a...ring-is-it-set-up-to-deal-with-misinformation

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/conorm...-media-app-siphoning-users-from-elon-musks-x/

    https://www.newsweek.com/bluesky-anti-toxicity-features-twitter-x-rival-1946192

    https://bsky.social/about/support/community-guidelines
    1. Don’t use Bluesky Social to break the law or cause harm to others. For example, do not:
      1. Praise or promote material from hate groups or proscribed terror groups
      2. Distribute child sexual abuse material, or any content portraying minors in a sexually explicit context
      3. Engage in human trafficking or sexual exploitation, including any attempt to distribute, participate or normalize child sexual abuse
      4. Engage in predatory or inappropriate interactions or exchanges between minors and adults, online or offline. Do not support or normalize pedophilia or the sexual exploitation of minors.
      5. Trade in illegal goods or substances
      6. Steal or distribute others’ private personal information without their permission
      7. Hack or access systems that you aren’t authorized to access
      8. Scam or cheat others for financial gain
      9. Spam, phish, or otherwise use technical means to disrupt the experience of others on Bluesky Social, or the Bluesky network. This includes operating multiple accounts that interact similarly.
      10. Infringe other’s copyrights, trademarks and/or other intellectual property
      11. Do not engage in voter suppression or share misleading content about election processes. Do not encourage or glorify the intimidation of election participants or real-world disruption of the election processes.
      12. Do not share misleading content falsely attributed to candidates in elections.
      13. Do not circumvent or evade moderation actions, for example by creating new accounts or repurposing an existing account to replace a banned account, or reposting content that has been removed as part of a moderation enforcement.
    2. Treat others with respect. For example, no:
      1. Harassment or abuse directed at a specific person or group, including but not limited to, sexual harassment and gender identity-based harassment
      2. Promoting hate or extremist conduct that targets people or groups based on their race, gender, religion, ethnicity, nationality, disability, or sexual orientation
      3. Threats of violence or physical harm, or content that encourages, promotes, or glorifies violence against people, groups, or animals
      4. Encouraging self-harm or suicide
      5. Depictions of excessive violence, gore, torture, dismemberment, or non-consensual sexual activity
      6. Misleading impersonation of other individuals, organizations, or entities
    3. Follow the standards of the app or service you are visiting: Developers may establish community guidelines for their own apps and services on the AT Protocol. Your failure to follow those rules may result in your being restricted from using those apps.
    Bobby as usual is projecting.

    DD
     
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    Look, we know you're a known piece of ****. Just because you're a piece of **** doesn't mean everyone else is lying.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    You throwing a temper tantrum like a child won't make obvious lies true.

    I'm just here to combat misinformation spread by extremists.

    Bluesky is intended to be used solely by far left, pro censorship types who are entirely intolerant to different perspectives.... which is fine, what isn't fine is lying about that.

    You can enjoy the extremist echo chamber at bluesky just like those on truth social do... but don't expect normal people to embrace that kind of thing, and don't lie about it.

    By all means, tell me about your favorite right wing bluesky account....
     
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    Good topic, but inevitably will turn political and belongs in D&D.

    My attempt at a non-political response: If we’re going to allow embeds from X, I see no reason to explicitly disallow them from other similar social media platforms. Obviously, people should use discretion and follow forum rules against posting extremist content on here, and that goes for X, BlueSky, or any other site.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    I think most of my argument is that it's kind of pointless going through the trouble of adding every little upstart social media platform out there when you already have the one that has everything of value on it. All of the different upstarts like Gab, Threads, Truth Social, and Bluesky are essentially a fart in the wind. You'd waste quite a bit of time making their content embeddable only for maybe one or two people to ever use it before they slide into obscurity.....and then 5 more pop up to take their place.

    If a social media platform isn't going to have mainstream acceptance and truly widespread usage, what's the point? You might as well just embed the Twitter/X content. If you were going to allow embeds for video, you might do YouTube, but not Rumble for the same reason.

    If those other platforms brought something uniquely valuable to the table, that might be different....but the only thing BlueSky has going for them is heavy handed ideological censorship....which is the opposite of having something of value.
     
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    What’s the line at which you’d consider that BlueSky has “mainstream acceptance”? How is that measured or judged? Number of active users, or something else?
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Hard to say, because the "active user" numbers can be drastically inflated with bots, but I think if there becomes a point where it's the go to for that type of social media, that's when they have mainstream acceptance.

    Youtube is the mainstream video upload site
    Facebook/Insta is for uploading pictures and for boomers to keep in touch
    Twitter/X is the primary news/current events platform.

    There's also TikTok for a little bit longer for crack style short videos.

    If a social media platform comes around and changes any of that, then we can start taking them seriously, but how many "Twitter killers" have there been already?

    On top of that, how many normal people have even heard of Bluesky? If this conversation comes up IRL, most people will just say "What is Bluesky?"

    Everyone knows Twitter.
     

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