I don't think we know who is holding us back, because we aren't changing anything to try and find out. I think it's FVV and Jalen might be better if he was playing beside Amen or whoever we trade for. Maybe it's Jalen and FVV becomes better without Amen. Maybe both of them need to go. How do we find out, if Ime keeps rolling out the same starting five and continues with same rotations? Maybe nobody is holding us back and we can compete for a championship with just an elite defense, nah.
I know what I am seeing, and he is excessively getting stripped in the 4th when the Defense keyed in on him.....not the regular 1 on 1. It's either an elite defender on him or he is being targeted in a blitz. He is getting blitzed a lot. https://hoopstudent.com/basketball-blitz-defense/
I'm all for experimenting with the starting line-up and think that getting paired with Amen is better for both FVV and Jalen rather than them playing alongside each other. What I oppose is taking Jalen out of the equation completely without replacing him with someone else. I don't see how that could benefit the team.
This is one of those things where if you have a bias you'll notice those plays more than the times he does elite things in the fourth driving to the rim. Remember those games where Green was doing elite stuff in the fourth carrying the team and doing electric stuff on the likes of guys like Wemby?
I been talking SGA on youtube and how he reminds me of early Rockets late OKC version of Harden minus the tacky foul baiting and opting for step back short 2s Moreyball wouldn't allow vs step back 3s. Like a touch of Harden and Wade and people saw Harden as a Wade/Ginobili type. I wish Green could study SGA. He's got the burst and speed to beat his man and get to easy spots. SGA isnt out there killing it from deep mid range like Kobe or Jordan. I see people calling him some mid range god or bringing back the mid range, but he's really not. He's getting 65% under the basket and 55% from ft line area and short corners where he does his most damage and being serviceable from 3. Barely takes anything else. He's a 2pt scorer in a 3pt happy league. Like Harden, SGA gets his man to his side or at his back and holds them there and patiently finds his shot, or quick bursts to a layup. He utilizes the scoop layup to beat length, but often times in todays NBA, there just isn't much resistance under the basket so its a mindset and desire to keep up the attack. Tone down the 3 attempts to 5 or 6 good looks and the rest of the time try easier shots. It's not like SGA is a big dude like Harden either. He's not really 6'6 at all. Prob 6'4.5 and much closer to Jalen true height. He's prob more like 190 than 200. Jalen needs to just watch tape all summer on how he beats his man. Work on the handles and quick decisions on change of direction. SGA is crafty and tight with his handle. It's not really pretty, but effective and fast. If not, then just use the downhill first step explosion to go to the short corners and do that little step back from that area SGA loves. Mix that with at basket attacks. Maybe i'm overlooking a key factor. SGA 6'10 and Harden 6'11 had MJ 6'11.5 and Kobe 6'11 and DWade 6'11 like long wingspans. Jalen Green has t-rex arms. 6'7? Phil used to say Jordan's hand size is what separates him from Kobe, so maybe it ultimately comes down to something you can't teach? He didn't end up quite tall enough and didn't end up long enough for his height. I'd rather he be a 6'2 PG with that explosive jumping ability and a 6'7 reach and be more DRose like. Sheesh. Just looked it up. Even DRose had a longer wingspan than Green at 6'3 in shoes, DRose prob 6'2 on a good day in reality.
I agree. I truly want FVV taken out of the equation, because he is clearly not in our future. We need to find out about Jalen more than anyone on this team, because of his contract situation. We know exactly what FVV's ceiling is. We don't know for sure that this season is his floor. We are not a contender this year, we need to be figuring out the off-season more than we need to have a token appearance in the play-offs or more likely the play-in.
I'm glad we got Sengun but I do wonder sometimes how much Green would have benefitted from a true defensive center that does not require the ball as much and would allow Green to be the man night in night out. For being so young Green has handled this situation very well, the team should be his but he is still willing to put other's first like Sengun. Green has insane clamps I did not think he had coming into the league. The closest we have to a true super star is still Green....
Lol Salvy with your sarcasm style humor it's hard to tell if you are mocking me because even I'm not that high on Green I think Sengun has shown more to earn his place as the "best player" on this team. I do think Green has a hard role to fill with his archetype and not a traditional five out spaced offense that most modern teams employed. But I'll say that Green since Harden has had the highest "highs" as in games where he legitimately looks like one of the five most exiting players in the entire league. My main gripe right now is a gripe most fans agree with in that Fred needs to have a smaller offensive presence and let Jalen and Amen run the backcourt even at the expense of some wins because we need to figure out these guys futures and long term roles.
I think the problem here is we don't have a competent point guard outside of Fred. Last time I looked at the on/off numbers and the lineup numbers, pretty much everything goes to **** without Fred. It would be nice if we could replace him, but without adding anyone to replace him I don't know how good of an idea this is. I guess the question is how many wins would you be willing to sacrifice to see something like this? I don't know how much less we would win, but it's definitely less than what we're doing now.
Nah bro lol, I'm being serious... I'm not debating Sengun is not our best player I just wonder how things would have been for Green without Sengun clogging up the paint. Green settles for three's when he should be driving more... I'm still high on Green, I'm even higher on Amen... I think Amen will end up being generational talent here in Houston, I predict Green will be dealt and blow up in a big market team... Green is the one player who gets the most hate and its unwarranted, he is inconsistent but when he is on he looks incredible. Top 10 player in the league incredible.... Someone is going to unlock this man and we gonna cry...
Thanks for the clarification. Ya my biggest gripe with Green hate is people not applying context to Green's role when putting him down relative to guys like Cam. Like ya we all acknowledge he has consistency issues but any young guy on this roster would struggle massively with consistency being asked to do what Green is asked to do on offense.
Why would it be binary? Most passers are neither great nor poor. The humongous majority will be somewhere between below average and above average. No one in the world has said Green is a great passer. But you're saying he's a poor passer because he doesn't do what all time greats do. How does that even make sense man? FVV is not a great nor poor passer. My metrics for great passer most PG's won't meet. My metrics for poor passer would be different too. It's subjective so we can't use mine to replace yours here. What makes Green a bad passer?
Yup, he is basically being asked to be a super star and anything less than means he sucks. Imagine thinking that a player that has hit 5,090 points in 4 years and is already moving up The Rockets all time scoring list is a bust.... If we have gotten inconsistent bad Jalen in 4 years then I don't even want to know what good consistent Jalen is going to look like because damn that's scary.... https://www.landofbasketball.com/all_time_leaders/rockets/points_total_career_rs.htm
Did you see the stats I posted on how Green and the team do in hundreds of possessions without Sengun (or any center) allegedly "clogging the paint"? According to your theory, he and the Rockets should be crushing it, once poor Jalen is freed from the "burden" of having to play with a center. Except, the team does A LOT worse with Jalen on and Sengun (or any center) off.
