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Bregman has signed with the Boston Red Sox

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Rockets34Legend, Sep 18, 2024.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    Wut? That plan didn't work out, did it?
     
  2. Amadeus Rooster

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    Nope. Which makes me think bullet dodged by us. Agree BT?
     
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  3. Buck Turgidson

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    I love watching Bregman play 3B.

    I hate watching Bregman at the plate.

    I'm cool with not watching him every game for the next 8 years or so. It's a bit of a bummer, but it is what it is. I still blame the salsa.

    eta total aside: I'm rewatching the PBS American Experience episode about Roberto Clemente. I highly recommend it.

     
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  4. RustyHarden

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    Watch Bregman sign with the Tigers.
     
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  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Cool, then we trade them Framber, who do they give us back?
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    ...my plumbs...

     
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    I.love Bregs but I'm with you. Hopefully Cam Smith and in the mean time Parades can fill the void. I did want him to retire as an Astro but we're used to it by now. That salsa is terrible.

    Nice on Clemente. I'm a huge fan and enjoyed it. Only person with an arm in right close to his was Raul Mondesi that I remember. Obviously Dave Parker too
     
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    I think you have to ask for Max Clark. Big outfield prospect which we need
     
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    Joe Orsulak!
     
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    I see it differently, and think he fundamentally exemplifies myriad characteristics of a player uniquely equipped to age well - from his attention to his aptitude to his brain to his eyes to his hands to his heart to his soul to his heart, and everywhere in between.

    If winning is indeed our goal, we ought not let him go. I am quite confident we will come to regret doing so.
     
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    When factoring in Texas’s no state income tax and low cost of living, the Astros’ 6-year, $156 million offer effectively aligns with Alex Bregman’s WAR-based market value.

    Here’s why:
    1.Bregman’s WAR Value: His projected 21 WAR over six years translates to a market value of $189 million (21 WAR × $9M per WAR).
    2.Houston’s Advantage: In Texas, Bregman keeps a larger portion of his salary due to the lack of state income tax. Combined with Houston’s low cost of living, the real net value of the $156 million offer matches his WAR-based market value in practical terms.
    3.What Other States Would Need to Offer:
    •Boston (5% state tax, 25% higher cost of living): Gross salary needed to match $156M net value = $200 million.
    •New York (14.176% combined tax, 35% higher cost of living): Gross salary needed = $220–230 million.

    If he stayed in Houston, Bregman would have gotten a true financial equivalent to what Boston or New York teams would have to grossly overpay to match. This makes the Astros’ offer fair and competitive while avoiding inflated figures, showcasing their understanding of market dynamics and maximizing their financial flexibility.
     
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    Ehhh. Unless he goes to Boston, he’s gonna pop out even more next year. He can’t leg out doubles very well and is at risk of TJ. For a good price, sure. But 7/8 years would easily be an albatross. Heck, 5/6 might be.

    I’m really beginning to think the Astros of the last decade really were greater than the sum of their parts. Also, for most, baseball “prime” = 24-29. We will be better off not sinking more money in older players.
     
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    It would be smart for Bregman to consider. After getting Parades and signing Walker, I don't want him back. We do lose some defense at third, but I really think Paredes will give us more offense than Bregman over the next 3 years at much less cost. Walker is a huge upgrade over Singleton. Correcting our OF has to be our no. 1 priority. We just cannot go into this season with a Dicenzo, Myers, McCormick OF.
     
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    I have never heard of any pro athlete ever considering state income tax or cost of living when choosing where to play.

    That's an issue only people who make under $5M per year think about.
     
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    Well if they have a good financial advisor then they should care. Is it just ego about wanting the highest salary they can get, regardless of the true value? Of course, I don't really care about other people's money as long as they are willing to spend it (Crane?) or people that come into one of my bars, restaurants.
     
  18. CinematicFusion

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    The players’ union doesn’t really focus on net income or tax implications—they prioritize the biggest overall contract numbers, not necessarily what puts the most money in a player’s pocket.


    Jim Crane nailed it with Alex Bregman’s 6-year, $156M deal. Based on Bregman’s projected 21 WAR (worth $189M in market value), the offer might seem low at first glance. However, when you factor in Texas’s lack of state income tax and lower cost of living, it’s a win-win for both sides.


    In contrast, teams in Boston or New York would need to offer $200–230M to match the net value Bregman gets in Texas. Anything less, and Bregman would actually take home less money—unless, of course, he went to Florida, Washington, or the other Texas team.
     
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    Who can nab him? Tigers bidding against themselves? Maybe we land him in the end?
    But performance matters. Mister popups no more. Did he start drinking dr peppers again?
     
  20. lnchan

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    Funny thing is Yuli did better when he was eating pizzas and a little chubbier.
     

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