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Does President-Elect Musk have too much power?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Dec 19, 2024.

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Does Elon Musk have too much power?

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  1. adoo

    adoo Member

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    intellectualy dishonesty / false equivalency on your part.

    George Soros was never
    • appointed to head a US Government department nor
    • owning a company that depends on Government funding

    the former illegal alien, Musk, was appoiinted by Trump to head DOGE;
    he also owns Space-X, which has generated over $3 billiion in revenue in 2023, all of which from US Govt contracts
     
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  2. AroundTheWorld

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    And what are you going to do about it?

    Cry, cry and cry on a message board...formatted right to left.
     
  3. adoo

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    that captures the essence of SpaceGhost's whining

     
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  4. deb4rockets

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    Screenshot_20241222-110043.png
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Oh that's why.
     
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  6. SamFisher

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    A real shame, seems like the oldest President Elect in history - who is losing motor control - may have noticed this thread.

    He's safe y'all

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  7. Pringles

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    I'm left-leaning and fine with what Elon is doing. I don't trust him 100% in terms of his motives, but asking the government to be more transparent is fine with me.
     
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  8. HP3

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    He wants to cut funding to Medicare and Social Security, he also just cut funding for children's cancer research, you have got to be kidding me.
     
  9. HP3

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    Idk bro, I'm just really tired of dumbass republicans dragging us down with them.
     
  10. durvasa

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    I believe the cancer research bill was passed by the Senate the other day separately from the omnibus spending bill. I don’t know what Musk specifically had to do with the cuts that were made in the revised spending bill, but perhaps the cancer research part was removed with the understanding that it would be covered separately.
     
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  11. HP3

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    Do we why it had to be though? It just seems like a weird issue to get hung up on if its gonna be funded anyways? I wonder how it affects the funding for the research.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    What was not transparent about the CR that got renegotiated?

    The only things that were mysterious and not transparent was

    1 - the cancer research finds going away

    And

    2 a mysterious break for companies - like e.g. Tesla - that do business in China (Tesla going to get smoked in China by BYD but that's a different matter

    [​IMG]

    But these 2 things are things that happened BECAUSE Musk/Trump scuttled the original CR.

    He didn't bring transparency here - the opposite, he just added a bunch of more shady dealing
     
  13. Ottomaton

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    Getting a little bit of Robert MacNamara vibes. He's probably going to make a bunch of little incremental management improvements and then totally screw up something very important to hell and back (a la MacNamara and the Vietnam War) because he thinks he knows better than all the experts and doesn't really understand at all. But like I said, he'll import some basic tough love corporate management stuff to the government that will have a positive effect early, which will buy him the political capital to go off the rails driven by his own hubris down the line.

    MacNamara had a business management guru aura about him when Kennedy appointed him that was very similar to the way people generally feel about the "super-genius" Musk. I also think expecting Trump to be able to have the ability to ride herd over Musk and keep him in check is probably not realistic. I don't care for either, but Musk could always intellectually run circles around The Donald, even before the gerontological concerns.
     
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  14. deb4rockets

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    Honestly, I think Musk is an even bigger threat to our national security than Trump. Sure, Trump is shady as hell, and makes a living grifting, seeking donations for favors, and is easily swayed by money and greed in quid pro quo favors, but Musk is different. He has his hands in many more foreign cookies jars, and the wealth to buy any politicians off around the world, or to fund their agendas for a bit of quid pro quo. I don't have a feeling he cares nearly as much about America as his company profits. Whatever government will fund him or expand his businesses or give him huge tax breaks would probably be a yes, regardless of whether they are our allies or not.
     
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    Dont forget Musk was able to successfully remove restrictions on his investments in China from the latest CR simply by tweeting out disinformation. These losers @Space Ghost who mention Soros can never point to a single instance these past 4 years where soros was able to lobby for legislation which would benefit him. Kamala and Biden endorsed a billionaire tax which would directly harm Soros. Musk does the opposite and these morons worship him



    These boomers @Os Trigonum spent years trying to spin Hunter Biden corruption stories but have no issue with Musk literally lobbying for legislation which would help his investments.

    Its genuinely sad how utterly braindead everyone in America has become. It's a tragedy for a once great nation.
     
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  16. Space Ghost

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    what restrictions exactly. show me in the bill
     
  17. deb4rockets

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    Corruption is corruption. A grift is a grift. Politicians with vested interests in companies being funded or given contracts by the government shouldn't be in positions of decision making. Time to stop playing partisan politics and realize that it's not right, regardless of party affiliation. But, like you said, certain people only share articles that point a picture at one party. I don't like the idea of anyone in power using the government to enrichen themselves, by making policies that make them personally richer through deregulations, government contracts for their businesses, or anything else that is for personal gain, instead of what meets the biggest needs of the majority of Americans .
     
  18. astros123

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    The original CR that congress had agreed upon would've expanded tech restrictions on AI, advanced batteries, and chips which would've hampered CCP growth in these areas. Elon's Tesla is currently heavily invested in AI and battery manufacturing in China so he threw a huge hissy fit about the original agreement. You can read about the original agreement here:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congress-vote-new-restrictions-us-investment-china-2024-12-18/

    Then Musk got upset and lobbied congress to remove the restrictions on China and part of the new agreement stripped out all export controls and restrictions on AI and batteries which directly benefit Tesla

    https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-china-continuing-resolution-budget-deal-proposal-2004103

    Who would've known that billionaires will always look out for themselves before anyone else other than right wing morons who worship them.

    Musk has hundreds of billions of dollars in investment in china and he just lobbied congress to help his investments. This sheer corruption is happening and Trump isnt even president! Its ****ing insane how corrupt the country is!

    The worlds richest man literally got congress to protect his businesses by throwing a hissy fit on a social media platform he owns! Jesus christ man

    What in the world are you talking about. The original CR was negotiated BY REPUBLICANS in the House of Representatives. The entire text of the CR had been released to the public before the vote! What was not transparent about it? House republicans literally wrote the bill!

    The bill was edited because Musk was upset about his investments being targeted! How in the world are you okay with that? You're okay with the worlds richest man lobbying congress to protect his investments? Thats okay for you?

    Jesus Christ
     
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    All liberal garbage from @adoo as always. Not surprising the far left like that trash
     
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  20. astros123

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    The thing that triggers me is the sheer hypocrisy from all these morons. @Os Trigonum @AroundTheWorld @Salvy These utter trolls spend the past 4 years literally making up hunter biden conspiracies everywhere but now that their team is openly corrupt and allowing the worlds richest man to strip language in legislation that would benefit them they dont care.

    I just cant understand for the life of me how America became so utterly stupid and brainwashed. I dont know if it was the social media or what.
     

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