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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

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    Yes I brought up Jordan Poole to set a standard for Green :confused:

    Am I typing English correctly? My sentences are readable right? I feel like half the people here I have engaged with today don't understand the premises I'm arguing and making up a strawman of my arguments.
     
  2. roslolian

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    For all the doom and gloom about Jalen Green I just noticed his performance isnt that far behind Tyler Herro, noted by people to be one of the best shooters in the league.

    Herro is historically a 38% 3 pt career shooter which obv is not comparable to Green, but as far as true shooting percentage goes he is only at 56% TS which is very comparable to Jalen Green's 54%, esp when you consider Herro has been playing in the East in Miami's system while Jalen has been on a tanking team for half of his career.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/herroty01.html

    Whats also interesting if you look at Herro is his percentages never improved dramatically before this year, when he turned 25 and will prob be voted to his first all star game. I am guessing we might be seeing the same pattern with JG. He will be inconsistent for the next 2-4 years, suddenly "get it" and then you have March Jalen all the time.

    The question is can the Rockets afford to dick around for those 2-4 yrs till Jalen blows up? Before this season I would have said but now since the Rox got 2nd/3rd seed I am not sure. Sengun, Amen and Jabari all look like they are ready to win now and DB is in his prime as well. Imagine if we traded JG for Booker in the offseason and replaced FVV with a better pg Rox might be contenders for the next 7 yrs or something.

    Of course the risk is we trade Jalen and then he blows up and starts playing well, like Hartenstein.

    Right or wrong I think the recency bias in the upcoming playoffs will determine if Jalen is traded or kept. If we dont even make the playoffs or he plays like a scrub he is out.
     
  3. rocketchamp

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    Sengun's inability to make layups Jalen & FVV's fault? Elaborate please
     
  4. Easy

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    Oh I understand you words. I just don't understand you logic if you are trying to say Jalen is a streaky but not a bad shooter. Poole is a below average shooter. I don't want to see Jalen turn into a Jordan Poole. I have higher hope for him. But that hope is shrinking as the season progresses.

    If Jalen is Poole then the Rockets are screwed although not exceedingly. We still have a lot of young talents on the team.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    Like again you are not addressing any of the premises I'm making. I don't want Green to end up like Poole. Also I think Green is more impactful already because of the defense. Poole wouldn't get many minutes on the Rockets but now you are making me do the comparison. I didn't bring up Poole to compare Green to him. I brought up Poole as an example of a streaky shooter vs a bad shooter like Amen or Andre Roberson.
     
  6. AlperenSengun

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    So a streaky shooter is a player who shoots more than he should based on his efficiency so that you have to wait a lot to witness a streak.

    if you are like amen, you are just a bad shooter.
     
  7. astrosrule

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    Jordan Poole (who i think absolutely sucks) is shooting 40% from 3 this season, and his 3rd season in GS reached heights Jalen has never seen. We should chill on some of these comps that are not realistic.
     
  8. Hemingway

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    I stopped engaging with your dumbass a long time ago. Go back in your hole until Jalen has another good game. Oh wait, we are playing scrubs the next 3 games, he will do well. We'll have to put up with you until January when he reverts back to himself.
     
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  9. fchowd0311

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    Your posts suck.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    You posts suck also.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Like I said, literacy is far more than the ability to read sentences. Being able to comprehend, contextualize and understand the actual premises made is part of it.

    So basically let's hope you are misrepresenting my arguments in bad faith and don't actually have literacy issues.
     
  12. Corrosion

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    FIFY.
     
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    amazing what playing with 3-4 all stars will do
     
  14. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Are you serious? Anyone would take $35m Green over $45m Poole, nevermind the age/height/athelticism difference that leave room for growth. Poole is missing FIFTY percent of the game on defense and on top of that he's supremely selfish. I'll take this season's Green over Poole to come off the bench for the Warriors and then to put up nice stats on a tanking team (though Jalen would impress with FTA rather than 3PT%).

    That's not the point we're at with Green where we're wondering if he can score big in easy games or he can be a microwave scorer. He's shown he can do those things. You seem to be in the mood to pile on Green these days but this one went too far. If we traded Green for Poole today, the collective world response would be: WTF would you do that for?

    BTW this is Poole's only above average shooting season. He's a career 34% shooter.
     
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  15. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Jordan Poole's two best seasons are:

    surrounded by the best shooting the world
    playing with a C who takes 3's

    If you suggest trying to do any of these things to get more scoring out of Green, you're making excuses!! lol

    Green has been disappointing for sure but there are some people here who are just mad. They're mad they envisioned Green becoming a great jump shooter within 2 years. That was their - imo stupid - prediction, they got it wrong, and instead of questioning why they got it wrong, they just blame the player lol even if everyone in the basketball world says he's working hard.

    Try criticizing Green in front of Udoka, 9 out of 10 times he'll defend Green to death. That's not a coach who is easy to please.

    Personally I'm not worried about his jumper anymore. I just want him to take half the attempts. If he improves in the long run he can increase those but at the moment his skill can't handle more than 4-5 attempts per 36. He's taking as many as Damian Lillard right now. He's taking as many middies as CP3. Everyone finally agrees the backcourt takes too many 3's, Udoka needs to have a tighter leash on the offense. This stuff needs to stop. Green needs to mostly attack the basket, get FT's and we have to accept our responsibility to improve the spacing when we want him to score. You take some 3's and a middy as counter moves when the defense sags too much. We don't have great shooters, but we can utilize our existing shooters better and more often. Might mean fewer points for Green but they will be efficient points.
     
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    just curious, what do you notably changed in the Wizards between last year and this year?
     
  17. ickaruto

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    Unfortunately the same.
     
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    While I disagree with Hemingway a lot here, I can attest you that this is not truth not all.......you have an agenda, we have seen here all the while.

    If only you can talk players into being really really good, you have the best shot.

     
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  19. Air Canada

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    If you don't hate him, then you're just a liar.

    He's been our best player on the road this season... So he's hardly a terrible basketball player 90% of the time.

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    https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630224/advanced
     
  20. Air Canada

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    Also on that list.... Jalen has a higher true shooting percentage than everyone ahead of him... When he scores 30 he averages a 68% true shooting.

    If this dude can develop into a player with some consistency.
     

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