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[Official] Astros Off Season Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 2, 2024.

  1. Fulgore

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    Teoscar and Santander. Slow pitch softball type lineup
     
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    Go get Santander and reunite him with his fellow compadre, you cowards!

    Still excited for the season. Curious to see how things will fall, in a good way.
     
  3. RB713

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    That would be amazing.
     
  4. Major

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    Yes, I dispute this. There is literally NO NEGATIVE to a free extra year. Crane would prefer a 100-yr $180 million contract over a 20-yr $180 million contract over a 7-yr over a 6-yr over a 2-yr.

    Anyone that understands math would happily save $25.7MM from 2025-2030, invest that money, and then pay that $25.7MM in 2031 and pocket the interest. The only scenario where Crane comes out worse is if there is net deflation over the next 7 years, in which case the US economy has collapsed anyway and Bregman's contract is the least of his worries.

    Again, remedial math is needed. A 7-yr $180 MM deal is identical in substance to a 6-yr $180 MM deal with $4.3MM of the annual salary deferred and a club option for a 7th year at $0. Every element of that is better than the 6-yr deal. There is no owner in baseball that would pick the 6 yr over the 7 yr.
     
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  5. Castian Crew

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    I wonder if Nolan wants to come to the Astros now :)
     
  6. Htown Stros

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    He’s looking at it for luxury tax purposes and you’re looking at it from purely an economic standpoint.

    That said, I don’t see why anyone would choose 6/180 over 7/180. You’d benefit every season from a luxury tax standpoint.
     
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    Gonna miss Bregman for real. So many clutch moments in the postseason. All around great guy too.
     
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    I know the team wanted Bregs back, but I'm glad they didn't let that dictate their offseason.

    I'm kind of surprised Walker signed before him. You would figure Walker would have a little more leverage once Bregman was off the board.
     
  10. PiPdAdY33

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    Any word on additional moves?
    Hoping we can free up money from Press or Caratini to spend on an OF.
     
  11. evilhomer

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    I just wish they would have traded bregman last year like they did with tucker this year…
     
  12. Phillyrocket

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    Same here. Adding Teoscar or Santander would be amazing.
     
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    I don't see anyway the Astros give up more draft picks to sign QO guys.

    Focus should be on the Winker level OFs.
     
  14. 13 in 33

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    If Carlos Lee can play LF (poorly), why not Big Jon?? Lol
     
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    We should've signed Max Kepler for the deal Phillies signed him for. I'm interested in Profar who is seeking a 3 year deal.
     
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  16. Htown Legend

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    Give me Santander and go get Luis Robert. Feeling greedy right now
     
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    Well, looks like i might have been wrong, the Astros could be a move or two away from cracking the window a bit rather than committing to a rebuild
     
  18. Hemingway

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    Nah. I think they sign an above average OF or trade for one. If you lose Tucker and Bregman than Paredes, Walker, and a good offensive OF gives you a better lineup. Signing just Paredes and Walker gives you a worse one. McCormick, Myers, and Dicenzo might be the worst offensive OF in baseball.
     
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    I know @Snake Diggit has already put it out there, but would a trade for Luis Robert look like? That would make this one of the most exciting off-seasons ever for the Astros in my opinion and would set us up as the best lineup in baseball.
     
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    Now that we are committed to competing (I always thought we were), I think keeping Caratini is key unless Salazar proves he can handle the show.
     

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