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Does President-Elect Musk have too much power?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Dec 19, 2024.

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Does Elon Musk have too much power?

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  1. dobro1229

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    Have you ever stopped to think that’s maybe not a good thing that the richest man on earth has a messianic like following??

    That maybe it would be a good thing if billionaires like Soros actually couldnt influence the public to jump off the Hoover dam??

    Not sure I understand the virtue of Elon Musk having that powerful of an influence. Maybe you can educate us why the richest man on earth should be a beacon that we follow into the darkness blindfolded??
     
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  2. dmoneybangbang

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    A non elected governmental official......

    Hmmmmm where have I heard that complaint from conservatives.
     
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  3. Commodore

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    Depends how that wealth was acquired. Elon has provided exorbitant value to others, and his following is commensurate with that.
     
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  4. dobro1229

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    Yeah call me crazy but Kamala Harris nominating General McRaven to run DOD and an actual health professional to run HHS sounds pretty swell right now. I’m pretty sure Kamala wouldn’t literally be nominating rapists right now…

    Oh and we probably wouldn’t be too worried about Elon Musk shutting down the government this Friday on a whim.
     
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  5. Kemahkeith

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    I find it curious that folks are saying Musk has to much influence on decisions while no one has seen Biden or Harris in like a month.
    There are obviously people making decisions daily other than those two.
    Difference is Musk is out there in the camera eye.
    The others are nameless folks making decisions.
     
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  7. dobro1229

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    I think you are confusing getting media attention vs doing an actual job that you see and hear about on a daily basis.

    Just because the media doesn't cover the dozen of meetings that Anthony Blinken had this week doesn't mean that Elon Musk is working harder than he is because he sends an insane tweet at 3AM about his Ketamine addiction, or shutting down the federal government or whatever.

    The people who run the federal government actually do have names. The DOD employees more people than most fortune 500 companies, and Lloyd Austin is the CEO of that organization.... and he has a name.

    ...

    Not giving you a hard time though as much as I'm indicting our media. I turned on the BBC earlier this week and holy christ there is ALOT happening around the world. NONE of which I hear anything about here in our media, and instead there was an entire segment I saw on Fox at the gym where they were literally talking about Pete Hegseth's tattoos, and woke culture.

    The "nameless" people running our country are only nameless because our media rewards stupidity and reality show faux drama.

    Elon is not making more or tougher decisions just because he gets more attention for doing crazy sh$t. Let's just please set the record straight there.
     
  8. dmoneybangbang

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    I find it curious you have to exaggerate in order to make a point…..

    Musk is using the media to prop his own brand and ideology. Maybe Musk should pay back the US government all the subsidies he took in since he’s all of sudden pretending to care about government budgets.
     
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  9. Kemahkeith

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    That was not my point.
    Where have Biden and Harris been all month, His staff is running the show right now do you not agree?
    Musk will have an appointed position, as does Blinken, Yelen or Austin. And others.
    They are running things, as will Musk once inauguration day is finished.

    I do not know where I exaggerated, but feel free to point it out to me as so I can be better.
     
  10. HP3

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    Taken straight from reddit

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    He is the establishment. He's a gilded spoon fed manchild who inherited a real estate empire from his dad in Vegas, new York Atlantic city, the whole ****ing northeastern us.

    He lived in a gilded penthouse with his name printed on it from the outside. His corny ass branding, that he inherited, was part of the Manhattan skyline.

    He has never gone grocery shopping, never had to earn anything, screwed over countless businesses and families, and has spent every waking moment the last 10 years flying around the country to ramble incoherently about how the world is out to get him and how hard his life is to stadiums of people.

    He's an unapologetic ******* who has never faced truly meaningful consequences in his 80 years of privilege. That doesn't make him anti establishment. It makes him a uniquely freeloading piece of **** deadbeat welfare queen, the ultimate establishment figure of human society, who gets to do whatever he wants and screw over anyone he damn well pleases, from a perch upon a mountain of corpses"
     
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    Gave a speech a few days ago, this isn't hard to find you just didn't care enough to try.

     
  13. JuanValdez

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    This is actually a job AI is well-suited for. What will be harder for an AI to do is explain how a proposed bill with interact with other statutes on the books, previous jurisprudence, and with authority explicitly delegated to executive agencies. Maybe someday, but from the products I've seen so far they aren't there yet.
     
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  14. HP3

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    Biden has been doing things, you just havent been reading about it.

    You didnt exaggerate, your point just isnt relevant to whats happening here. This about congress and a bipartisan bill which was blocked BECAUSE MUSK SAID SO.
     
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    You claimed no one has seen Biden and Harris for a month…. That’s a lie/hyperbole in order to prop up your own argument.

    Musk torpedoed the current bipartisan bill via twitter. Seems like he has too much influence to me.
     
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  16. SamFisher

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    The self-own of the Musk shutdown is great.

    Trump isn't President. Musk isn't President.

    They don't have anything to do with the curent government. The best thing to do would be -- nothing. Let congress do its CR like everything else.

    Trump could have entered office with teh media free ride he's gotten for years now, even bigger and better and a **** ton of unerned good vibes with a triumphant inauguration.

    Now even the inauguration is in doubt, an unforced error of a shutdown (that will harm normal people, because that is what these people do) - and all because Elon is too dumb/stupid/bad at politics and Trump lacks the motor control to stop him.
     
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  17. dmoneybangbang

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    He’s clearly one of the good ones [/s]

    Let’s be honest…. For conservatives this is about culture wars.
     
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  18. Andre0087

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    Hell why not? The first African American speaker in the history of this country. MAGA!!!


    Rand Paul floats Elon Musk for Speaker




    Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) suggested Elon Musk serve as Speaker in a Thursday morning post on X following contentious debates over the continuing resolution (CR).

    “The Speaker of the House need not be a member of Congress . . . ,” Paul wrote.

    “Nothing would disrupt the swamp more than electing Elon Musk . . . think about it . . . nothing’s impossible. (not to mention the joy at seeing the collective establishment, aka ‘uniparty,’ lose their ever-lovin’ minds).”

    Later Thursday, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) said she would be open to supporting Musk to replace Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) in a post quoting Paul.

    “I’d be open to supporting @elonmusk for Speaker of the House. DOGE can only truly be accomplished by reigning in Congress to enact real government efficiency,” Greene wrote on X.

    “The establishment needs to be shattered just like it was yesterday. This could be the way,” she added.

    Musk is the co-leader of President-elect Trump’s “Department of Government Efficiency” (DOGE), an advisory panel focused on cutting spending and the size of the federal government.

    He and fellow DOGE co-leader Vivek Ramaswamy helped drive a wave of opposition to a bipartisan spending deal Wednesday, ultimately ending in Trump and Vice President-elect JD Vance urging Republicans to oppose the measure.

    Several Democrats criticized Musk and claimed he, not Trump, was driving the president-elect’s position.

    “It’s one thing when you have Donald Trump governing by tweet, as he did in his first term, where he was in communication with Congress, but now you have Elon Musk, an unelected oligarch, governing by tweet,” Democratic Rep. Dan Goldman (N.Y.) said Wednesday on CNN’s “AC360.”

    “This is absurd,” he added.

    The Speaker is not required to be an elected member of the House, and elected officials have flirted with the idea of appointing a Congressional outsider in the past.

    In 2015, former Rep. Jim Cooper (D-Tenn.) voted for former Secretary of State Colin Powell to hold the leadership role unsuccessfully.



    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5048431-rand-paul-elon-musk-speaker/
     
  19. Os Trigonum

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    does this thread signify a change of focus from Trump Derangement Syndrome to Musk Derangement Syndrome?

    asking for a friend, of course
     
  20. dmoneybangbang

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    Obama Derangement Syndrome then Trump Derangement Syndrome then Biden Derangement Syndrome….

    …. I think Musk and Trump will combine their afflictions
     
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