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2024 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 23, 2024.

  1. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

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    Red Sox get:
    SP Framber Valdez

    Astros get:
    1B Tristan Casas
    IF Mikey Romero
    P Quinn Priester
     
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    I didn’t even realize Priester was in the Red Sox org. Wasn’t he a top pitching prospect for the Pirates at one time?
     
  3. Nook

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    Red Sox have floated a former Astros farm hand outfielder in a deal for Framber. They are not sure he isn’t a long term platoon guy.
     
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  4. Snake Diggit

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    Swapping Abreu for Casas wouldn’t be as good but would still be pretty fair. Ideally they could get Kristian Campbell instead of Romero but that may be too much to ask. Maybe just a 2 for 1:

    Red Sox get:
    SP Framber Valdez

    Astros get:
    OF Wilyer Abreu
    IF/OF Kristian Campbell
     
  5. Hoothrewpoo

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    Boston has floated Abreu to about a third of the teams in the league.
     
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    From what I've read, I think I may rather have Franklin Arias than Campbell.

    It sounds like he may is a true SS while Campbell really isn't a great fit anywhere in the infield. Maybe a good replacement for Pena in 2-3 years?

    I don't want to see any more IF prospects have to get moved to the OF.
     
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    I would throw in a couple of guys like Gordon, Melton in addition to Framber for Casas and Abreu.
     
  8. IdStrosfan

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    I agree, but the problem with dealing w/ teams trying to contend is that they are not going to want to give up multiple MLB impact pieces regardless of the return.

    That's why it was so important to capitalize on getting Bellinger or Suzuki included in the Tucker deal. Those opportunities don't come along often.

    Also just as a side note, if the Astros made a deal like that there is no longer room for Alex. I still think Alex and 1 of those players is better than both.
     
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    The Tucker deal is over and Bregman is gone. We do not need impact MLB pieces for 2025. We need impact prospects for 26, 27, & 28
     
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  10. IdStrosfan

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    That's sad.

    Giving up on 2025 before Christmas.
     
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    I think you have to give up on Bregman at this point. The fact that they were going to trade for Arenado pretty much tells you Bregman is gone.
     
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    My understanding is that the Cardinals want something done ASAP.

    They made Brown an offer he couldn't refuse (I have read $13M-$15M AAV) but it needed to be decided immediately.

    For one reason or another the organization sees something in him and thinks he can help them win.

    Couple that with the multiple holes in the roster and the strong possibility that Alex signs elsewhere, it was a no-brainer.

    Then, if Alex did return, they have 3 players for 2 positions + DH when Yordan is in LF ( say 40 games). We know Yordan WANTS more time in LF.

    That's 364 games = 121 each, plus insurance in case of injury for 1b, 3b, DH and possibly 2b.

    Maybe they think Paredes can play LF?

    And, of course, at $13M AAV they can always look to flip Arrenado to a team on his list if he's OK with that. Maybe Brown adds a lottery ticket prospect the nerd cave really likes? That would be 4d chess.

    I don't see an issue with Brown bringing him in. It feels like it would have been a very small problem.

    The bigger issue is whether he can still play or is this Abreu all over again?

    And I can definitely see this still getting done. The Astros can still talk to him and try to convince him or add a sweetener. The closer it gets to opening day the more he will want out of St Louis and unless teams open up after Alex (and Walker, Alonzo, and the other 1b) are off the board.

    For a team that refuses to give longer contracts to star players into their mid-late 30s, they sure appear to like players in those ages if the deal is shorter.

    The truth is, I don't mind him on this team as long as it is him AND another bat or three instead of him OR another bat or three.
     
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  13. lnchan

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    Even more sad... giving up to Sacramento, Anaheim, Arlington, and Seattle when only one of them could get to .500 last year.
     
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    Considering Rangers got Semien and Seager in the same offseason... good players play regardless of position
     
  15. Snake Diggit

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    Astros get:
    IF Bo Bichette

    Blue Jays get:
    IF Mauricio Dubon
    P Forrest Whitley

    Bichette’s value is very hard to gauge because he’s coming off of such a bad year and is a pending free agent; he’s also making decent money so he’s not terribly cheap. Toronto is also trying to contend so they likely would want big league players in return. Dubon becomes somewhat redundant if Houston has both Bichette and Pena on the roster, as it allows the Astros to keep a better hitter like Dezenzo or Whitcomb on their bench, while the Jays could use some insurance for both SS and LF.
     
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  16. IdStrosfan

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    That may be a fair return, but Toronto will expect more impact than that, and the fans will be pissed if they don't get a semi-star, or at least an everyday regular.

    I would not do it, but I think they would demand Dezenzo and a proven healthy Luis Garcia at the very least.

    Remember, Dezenzo is a James Click draftee.

    I like Bichette at the plate, and maybe at 3b or LF, but he's not a good SS.

    Just pass and move on to something else.
     
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    If the Jays are looking to trade Bichette for a fringe Top 100 prospect and a healthy proven #3 SP with multiple years of control, they’d better assume they’re keeping him because any team would be utterly idiotic to give them that kind of return.
     
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    I’d take Bo over Arenado. I think?
     
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    Most would
     
  20. IdStrosfan

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    I think before last year most people would have viewed Bichette and Tucker pretty comparably.

    Many fans would have expected a better return for Bichette as he is a bigger name. 27 year old 2 time all star with down ballot MVP finishes the previous 3 years.

    The Blue Jays won't sell low and they will just hold on to him if they aren't getting something that legitimately projects to be a positive impact.
     

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