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United Healthcare CEO murdered in NYC midtown

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Dec 4, 2024.

  1. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    This is equivalent of storming out of your leasing office after arguing with the property manager about your lease renewal rent hike and storming out and saying something like about this is why a French style revolution will happen in a few years.

    It's not a actionable threat. This is bad faith suppression of speech by making people fear criticism of these insurance companies.
     
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    Calling her a copy cat is a stretch

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    When important people feel threatened.

    See private jet Twitter update guy.
     
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    He got me on the point of wishing harm on some murder/rape cases, past what they are legally charged. In horrific offenses I often wish for brutal retribution rather than rehabilitation.
     
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    That is a great nominee for the Dems in 2028. Many woke clowns in here will vote for him. Lol
     
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    If this guy had an internal bleed, the symptoms alone would merit his case being marked as a priority. Extreme fatigue, super low blood pressure and fainting when he tries to walk or sit up. This was simply bad triage and emergency medical procedures.

    I had a GI bleed early last year here in Texas and had these symptoms. The first thing they tested was my heart. Suspected heart issues = priority. And this guy went home. That’s also on him. If he would have passed out while waiting they could have saved his life.

    To finish my part of the story, and it’s relevant, they suspected I had an internal bleed after ruling out heart issues with a CT and blood tests showed my hemoglobin levels super low and dropping. But they still had me in ICU on an IV with blood clotting meds.

    The only way they knew it was a bleed was when I finally had a BM and it was black. I was -this- close (low 10 g/dl) to needing a blood transfusion when my numbers stabilized. I lost between 2-3 liters (about 3/4 gallon) of blood.

    It took them about a month to figure out what it was. Three scopes and finally a pill with a camera and they found an intestinal arteriovenous malformation (AVM) that I think I nicked with a hot wing bone I must have accidentally swallowed the night before. I had to keep pushing to get these tests done. The doctors were really dubious about the pill actually showing anything but that’s what finally showed what it was.

    Blood loss is no joke, and it’s not like the movies. I was weak as a baby for weeks and had to get iron transfusions to replace the iron my body used up to make new blood. It was about 2 months before I was back to normal.

    Moral of the story:
    • Listen to your body
    • Be your own advocate
    • Doctors can be wrong, trust your gut (haha)
    • Don’t leave the ****ing hospital
    • Chew your food completely
     
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    Yeah, this was preventable and it doesn’t signal to me that the American system of fragmented, over-priced, and often unnecessary treatments and services, along with insurance policies that make it difficult to know what is covered, is the superior approach.
     
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    Shooting someone just because they are stealing your TV is morally wrong BUT you have to understand in that situation a homeowner can be startled, scared etc of a unknown individual in their home and feal as if their life is threatened.

    There I used language you might understand to understand the perspective Bernie is coming from.
     
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    There is nothing about the US private health insurance scam system that will magically catch internal bleeding in the brain.

    My younger brother has a mild case of osteogenesis imperfecta, aka brittle bone disease. Even a mild case is life changing. By age 15 he broke his femur bones 4 times in his life and that is one of the most difficult ones to break. Severe cases can completely deform the body and a simple trip would shatter bones so luckily my brother doesn't have that level of severity. Today as an adult he might be at a higher risk for fractures but it isn't debilitating his life. But it's still a concern.

    A couple years back my brother and his friends picked up a new hobby with RC cars. These RC cars were pretty heavy and had a lot of torque. With a small off ramp you can make these things fly and they do have decent amount of mass on them. One day my brother's friend yeeted a rc car off a dirt incline and it flew right to my brother's nose and eye socket and he was gushing blood from his nose and the obvious concern was if he fractured his nose or even worse if he fractured any part of his skull and is having internal bleeding. For someone with OI, even a mild case, that is going to be an immediate concern that jumps out. So my his friends take him to the nearest ER and we get a call saying he might have fractured his nose and is waiting in the ER.

    By the time I arrived at the waiting room he was already waiting for a couple of hours. I waited with him for an additional couple of hours and in my head and in my mom's head were are paranoid about a brain bleed. The medical staff has been informed also that he literally has brittle bone disease.

    So the triage system in this ER room sees this combo of potential fractures in the head for a person who has brittle bone disease. I had to confront the triage staff and tell them my brother has literal brittle bone disease and has a potential fracture somewhere in the head. What if he's bleeding internally in the brain? 20 minutes after my heckling they finally call him on for examination. So we were in the ER waiting room for about four hours during that time.

    And yes my brother was a employed as a software engineer with full medical coverage through his employer.

    So my point is any time during that four hours my brother could have collapsed and died through a undiagnosed brain bleed because of waiting and he's paying full premiums on health coverage through his employer who also is subsiding it and in sure reducing the earning of all employees because they are incorporate my the cost of said subsidizing of insurance premium.

    So in this entire scenario it seems like the only winner is the MBA frat bro managing these insurance companies providing no utility to society and just skimming millions of dollars from collective pools of money meant to be redistributed for healthcare.
     
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    I’m guessing your brother is OK, I’m glad for that.

    This is another emergency medical scenario that has nothing to do with insurance. It has everything to do with being your own vocal advocate in an emergency situation.

    The ER staff are conditioned to prioritize the terrible looking issues and to ignore panicked relatives, because if you’re in the ER with a loved one, you’re panicked.

    What helps? Calm but urgent repeated requests. Calm escalation to supervisors. You’re the squeaky wheel but you’re rational.

    What can help change the specific hospital’s behavior? Social media and poor reviews. They jump on that **** like white on rice.

    Lawsuits should help but the damages are capped and they all carry insurance so it’s a quantifiable risk and a cost of doing business.
     
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    No, it isn't. Stealing your TV is morally wrong.
    Your life is inherently threatened if a criminal breaks into your home, and you can rightly use self-defense to eliminate them. Even California allows you to shoot home invaders. You know who we don't allow you to shoot? Business people whose practices you disagree with.
     
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