I just don’t understand why we are having this conversation. We are 17-8 playing in Vegas for the opportunity to win the NBA cup. We have one of the deepest teams in the nba and we’re talking about replacing JG….
5/15 fg 0/4 3pm 5 turnovers in the warriors win, there is no way you can possibly defend that. If you look at JG's 2024 season averages compared to 2023: FG% has regressed 3P% regressed, FT% improved TO regressed.
right?? this is unhinged behavior even for Clutchfans.. #2 seed when vegas and everyone had us pegged 8-10th and people still want to trade half the roster. enjoy the ride guys, we used to win 16 games in a season..
Because the general public is actually crazy. The post above yours is saying to trade a player that has what a couple hindered minutes in the nba. A player that should be a great shooter down the line. A team that needs shooting.
Neither was Jabari his first year. Or Sengun. His issues aren't even on the offensive end. They're mainly on defense. He's a rookie. But he's the future. I'd be shocked if he isn't playing the FVV role in a year or two. If you can't see why that is then you simply have an axe to grind with that pick.
I don't remember the exact phrasing, but I remember Ime saying he was fine playing young players when first hired, and then almost immediately any young player that was not NBA ready was removed. No lasting damage to the team seems to have been done by Silas. That isn't a compliment, but he gets way too much credit for how bad the Rockets were. It was mostly Stone who assembled a bunch of young talented players and forced Silas to try to figure out which ones were worth keeping. I have no big issue with Stone's overall plan to acquire a bunch of young talent, and then add some quality veterans last season while the best of the young guys provide a lot of value on cheap contracts.
It was both. You are right that it is easy to pile on Silas and forget that Stone was a big part of the problem as well - but the young players did not really develop under Silas, and there was a lack of accountability under Silas/Stone. Regardless, that is in the past. Udoka has been an incredible influence on the organization and most of the players have stepped up as well when it comes to effort and desire.
You can disagree with this current conversation. but if you've been a sports fan of any kind for more than a year, you should at least understand the existence of conversation. But if you have trouble understanding, to put it in real world terms, just because your boss doubled his profit last year doesn't mean he will double your pay. Nor does it prevent him from replacing you with someone cheaper if he can find a capable replacement.
I mean, really, Booker's the target, right? Stone went out of his way to get the Suns picks. He signs Jalen to a shorter "tradeable" contract. This year, he is probably telling the truth about being patient and keeping the team together. We wait to see if Jalen can truly put it together. We wait to see if the Suns have a disappointing season. If Jalen continues to not meet expectations and the Suns decide to break it up, then a Jalen plus picks deal is going to be hard to beat for Booker. Personally, I just hate to wait when the team is so competitive right now, but I understand.
Accountability? So if you were the boss you would have fired Stone for losing games when that was what got us all these good players we have now? Anybody who thinks Stone should be accountable for losing the past 3 years shouldnt enjoy the team winning now. This is just ridiculous. What was there to develop before the Rockets started tanking and trading guys for assets? We dont want to develop Daishen Nix's winning habits SMH. What Stone showed in Y3 is it easy for him to build a competitive team. All he needed to do is hire a good coach (there are so many available) and then get good vets who can shoulder the load. It is easy to be a mediocre team. But if he did that the Rockets would get nowhere. Being bad and collecting good players is the right way to build a team. Good players should be able to handle losing, look at Wembanyama. He was good last year even if his team was almost historically bad, and now he has the Spurs having a winning record. History has shown "the Process" methodology is the best way to rebuild unless you can rob a team blind, you fail hard, fail fast and then come up on top in just under 5 yrs. This is a lot better than being on the mediocrity treadmill like the Bulls, Kings and all the other teams that always collect low lotto picks almost every year.
so objectively speaking, why does one think Jalen will be a net positive trade asset at near max if he underperforms AGAIN in his 4th season? This is precisely why you don’t extend someone on big money prematurely, and especially when they haven’t shown the kind of progress their peers have. I’m befuddled by the notion that we’d get rid of him because he’s not performing, but some other sucker team would be glad to have him...on real money. That seems unrealistic to me. But agreed we likely won’t have the opportunity to move him until the summer because of the rules around the extension.
After this year the best move would be to wait for a team to make a big offer for JG. He is still the kind of player that GMs want to take credit for getting because he is seen as a guy that has all the talent, he just needs to stop taking bad shots. But the problems is that he sees himself as a James Harden or a Lamelo Ball. I am all for trading him in the offseason for picks and letting Cam take his spot. And there are teams out there who are willing to back up the truck for him and his contract. Despite his shooting numbers he is still the 2nd leading scorer on a winning team. And a lot of people believe the problem is that he just doesn't fit well with Alpi. I would love to see Charlotte offer Tre Mann plus picks for him. But it would be interesting to see what the Lakers, Kings, Pacers or Raptors would be willing to pony up. This team needs to see what they have with their current talent and then continue to build with other team's draft picks. When your problem is that you have too much talent to play in the rotation at them same time, the strategy should be to let other desperate teams make offers that you can't refuse and stash their assets for when you have to pay the players you keep.
It's gonna be Amen / Green unless FVV resigns on a much friendlier team deal Amen might not be the best PG but I guarantee Udoka wants that defense against opposing PG's
I can't defend the contract. I don't think they should have offered it. I was just trying to explain my perception of Stone's thinking. I suppose at 23, Jalen still has some upside. Is it enough to make him a positive asset on that contract? I'm not so sure. But in the proposed scenario, the Suns would be looking for a tank commander with upside.. he does fit that profile pretty well.
