Good stuff? Bernie and his followers pretend they have special formula on how to win elections yet voters reject him every time over and over. Bernie got less votes than Kamala in his own state and ran behind every Democratic senator this past election. AOC, Illhan Omar, jayapal and the entire progressive squad ran behind kamala in their races. Not a single leftie outran the top of the ticket. Progressives pretend everyone is some secret socialist. Biden was the most progressive POTUS of our lifetime and working class voters flocked to Trump cuz they hate trans people. Bernie bros are delusional
Problem is that GOP broke the system and refused to fix it, and Dems ended up owning that - a magical strategy by the GOP. DEMS need real marketing people not these mushy think tank folks. They should be combining their core message with capitalism - super easy, let's try, "Capitalism for all" not just the 1%. Let's see them try to label that as socialism. That's how the Dems need to think. They need to get brutal and tough. "Stop getting trickled on" Just attack trickle down economics as rich people laughing and pissing on them while their lives get worse. The foolery of thinking trickle down would work is like opening your mouth and begging trickles. But the dems were weak and confused. But in the end, Trump is the best thing for the Dems in the big picture. Because Trump will break the system. Problem is, he won't know how to fix it and when it's a mess, it will be the Dems who rebuild it ala FDR.
Biden most progressive of our lifetime? That's a stretch. Bernie appealed to voters more in those Midwest states Clinton and Kamala lost. A younger version of Bernie would be good for the party.
I don't think AOC is like Bernie. A lot of the same political views of course, but they are so different as people. I think it is vital to avoid NY & CA in finding the 2028 candidate. Bernie appealed to blue collar Midwest in a way that would be more difficult than AOC.
I guess. I still think she is will be the progressive standard-bearer from here on out, she's one of the few with a national brand, and at a young age. She's gonna be around a long time I think.
100% agree with this. I expect her to run for President at some point, but think she's going to have better luck heading up the House or Senate.
I think Bernie did a pretty decent job as a standard bearer for the progressive/populist wing of the Democratic party. Big shoes to fill there.
Bernie basically got nothing done. Bernie wanted to ban fracking. Would that help poor people? It would probably just increase gas prices.
It seems to be that Jon Stewart is the best candidate for 2028. From the grassroots there really needs to be a push to get this guy to run like Bernie as an independent on the Dem ticket. Listening to focus groups, reading up on surveys, etc about why voters swung to Trump it seems pretty obvious that American voters really aren't reliable to look at a presidential election as one of evaluating politics like days of old. We are not a smart critical thinking society... BUT if you have someone who can clearly communicate, is popular in culture, and has that ability to grab the media... I think the Democrat in that position would win. Especially going against a party with policy positions as deeply unpopular as Trump's Republican party. Most voters want Democratic policy, but vote for MAGA showmanship because they are ignorant enough to just hear what they want, and assume it aligns with what they know deep down they really need. Enter Jon Stewart. -Right on the issues 99% of the time -Bombastic -Fighter -OUTSIDER, and can bash Democrats while being a Democrat -Popular -Funny, and entertaining -Knows how DC works It's just check check check for THIS ELECTORATE. Back in 2012 I think most would say I'm crazy, and I'm sure partisan MAGA supporters will reply to this comment as if I'm crazy.... because they actually are scared of Stewart running... The only question is if he can be convinced and if he's not getting too old.
Stewart doesn't want that job. He had to scrub himself down like an ocd fanatic for years after campaigning for 9/11 first responders. He knows what he's good at and is enjoying his life where he is.
people act like Bernie is God’s gift to politics…he got slapped around in both the 2016 and 2020 primaries, and no, it wasn’t all the fault of the DNC Bernie does well with the most unreliable voting blocks Dem neo-liberalism/status-quo candidates aren’t gonna get it done either I too think Jon Stewart would be the best candidate to run…someone who can shake up the party and hopefully won’t surround himself with the same ol’ useless Obama/Biden campaign strategists that are still stuck in 2012 Dems need a charismatic strongman to deliver their message…they need someone who actually believes in and stands for something…Kamala Harris couldn’t convince people of that since she basically switched all her positions from 2019, and I’m sorry, but running around with the likes of Liz Cheney and propping up anti-Trump republicans like that’s supposed to energize your own base is just gross
I think that would be a good bet. Michelle Obama would have a great shot, but I don't see her running. Despite Clinton's own shortcomings, it is hard to picture a stronger position for a female Democrat than Clinton had in 2016.
I think the Democrats have a decent shot at winning in 2028 just because of the nature of politics in this country. I imagine people will be tired of Republican governance/blame them for whatever and swing back to the Democrats. It's a big reason Trump got elected this year. But I don't think the Democrats will put a woman up in 2028. Not after Hilary in '16 and Kamala in '24. I would imagine they will be reluctant to run another woman in '28.
Whats the stretch? Bidens FTC has been the most anti corporate ftc in modern history. They just successfully blocked the kroger/Albertsons merger this past week as it would hurt labor. His admin has sued to break up more corporate mergers than anyone in history. Theyve sued to break up ticketmaster, Amazon, Google, PBMs and even took on hedge funds for improperly mergering medical practices. His NLRB has reinstated more laid off workers than anyone in modern history while spending 3 trillion dollars on climate change. His admin also issued the largest union bailout in American history but you dont know any of this cuz braindead lefties dont actually care for policy @fchowd0311 Democrats didnt do "neoliberalism" over the past 4 years. They spent trillions on the economy and focused their entire economic agenda on workers and folks were more upset about trans women
Biden literally gave a blank check to the teamsters union to the tune of 45 billion dollars and bailed out 1.2 million pensions from going broke and in return the same members voted for trump cuz of "woke" AOC got less votes than kamala in her own district. Not a single progressive ran ahead of kamala. Several moderate and blue collar dems ran double digits ahead of kamala. Progressive brand is toxic and has zero appeal
