I think there may be some miscommunication or wires are getting crossed on this topic. I cannot speak for other people - but only myself - but I don't think that the shooter is a hero or shouldn't go to jail. I think he will be convicted of murder. However - I do not believe that someone that makes the decisions that the CEO made is a very good person. His decisions resulted in a lot of human suffering, and while others will rightly point out that someone else would do it if he didn't take the job - it doesn't change the fact that he was in the middle of it. I compared it to high level mobsters..... it is sad, but I do not find it as upsetting as the 12 year old kid that was shot and killed by police in Wal Mart because he was holding a fake gun he found in Wal Mart's toy section.... of many other people that have been murdered or have died early. Americans as a whole really have largely not been terribly empathetic or sympathetic to the dead CEO and that should be a warning to people about the social conditions in the USA right now.
I find this pretty interesting. On Breaking Points they talk about the shooters online profile and the conservative pundit talks about how much their interests intersect. The shooters profile very much fits a terminally online young conservative mold. He talks about the "Uncle Ted" (Kaczynski) love, because apparently that's a thing in some right wing circles, among other influences. Sagar calls him a secular right wing anarcho-capitalist. Very much an Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, JD Vance kind of guy. Edit: He also talks about how the murder might have been styled after the Japanese political assassinations of the 20s and 30s.
The concept that someone has a family means automatic sympathy is a concept that from people like you is not applied consistently when it's lets say a brown insurgent/terrorist. Am I making an assumption about you? Ya but I think it's a safe one. Why don't I see posts from you chastising those celebrating the death of the Hamas commander? Oh but you'll say "the Hamas commander is evil and killed innocent people". And I'll say "you are getting warmer bud. Now appy that logic consistently". Sincere question. Who killed more Americans. Brian Thompson or Yahya Sinwar? And btw I whole heartidly understand and empathize with Israeli victims of terror attacks celebrating the death of Sinwar. That is human nature and I'm not going to debate against human nature.
Again, you're way off base. But go ahead, call me a racist if that makes you feel better about yourself. Anyone that disagrees with you must be a racist, misogynist, whatever.
Sure I don't feel GOOD for the CEO and his family. He probably didn't carry any weight or guilt. Oblivious and/or numb to any pain caused by United Healthcare. He probably wasn't inherently evil (I don't care either way). That's the flaw with our political and economic system (it's just a flaw, everything has a flaw, relax and don't turn into crybabies over this remark) - in America there is rarely a single person responsible for doing the evil or gradually passing the legislation that allows for evil. In this case and other cases like it, it's a simple function of optimizing everything to market value or net income. Ultimately the CEO held the platform, didn't advocate against the evil - and blame was assigned. Some people only know how to pray to the God of earnings margin and it shows.
If I'm off base for this assumption then I'd assume this wouldn't be your first time chastising someone not sympathizing the victim of a murder. If I'm off base and given the thousands of comments posted here celebrating the deaths of many different people mostly brown and foreign I'd assume you are somewhere amongst those thousands of comments chastising those individuals.
And fascist. Everyone who disagrees with him is a fascist. Because he once read an article or book about Weimar.
My cut off line with who to place blame with these insurance companies is simply by asking this question: "why do you work?". For vast majority of health insurance employees the answer is "I have to pay rent" or "I have to pay off a mortgage". But the executive class of these companies don't work to pay bills. They work to accumulate wealth and clout. And when your sole motivation to deny life saving treatment is to accumulate more wealth, you are one of the responsible individuals that a just society would punish and sperate from society.
“To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”
As I said, self-righteous. Rationalizing murder. Nobody appointed you to be judge, jury and executioner, kid.
He also followed several left leaning people like Ezra Kelin and AOC. Lets not brand him incorrectly.
Most people aren't only one thing. He fit's more in with the tech-bro culture than anything else. Watch 5 minutes of the video, it explains it pretty well.
It's not, not-humble either? Words of unrelated context. You basically said - it's not TRILL to eat POTATOES. WHAT?
The theory that this assassination is similar to 20s and 30s Japanese political assassinations got me interested. Looking into it, this seems quite similar to the Shinzo Abe assassination in 2022. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Shinzo_Abe Basically a man named Tetsuya Yamagami had a beef with the Unification Church (the moonies) because his mother was a cult member and was sending all the families money to the church. Tetsuya does some digging and finds the reason the church has a foothold in Japan is due to corrupt ties between the church and Japan's Liberal Democratic Party. Anyway Tetsuya wants revenge, plans his attack for several months, and kills prime minister Abe in broad daylight with a ghost gun. This shines a bright light on the corrupt government and they cut ties with the Unification Church and the church's license to practice gets revoked. Tetsuya is now considered a hero for ending the Unification Church in Japan. "Abe’s killing has been described as one of the most effective and successful political assassinations in recent history due to the backlash against the UC that it provoked." This guy wants to be the hero that ends predatory health insurance in the country by copying the Abe assassination.
