its pretty disturbing to see so many celebrating this murderer. you dont have to like the health care industry to recognize that cold blooded murder is cold blooded murder. in texas if you murder a BLM protester and get convicted by a jury of your peers our governor will pardon you.
It's telling to me that the handful of influencers/people/mediums desperately trying to spin the narrative as - KILLER BAD - are the same ones that pander to the out of touch and/or low IQ audience.
This is similar to the logic of harassing Israeli citizens because they are bombing Gaza @AroundTheWorld Guilt by association. The healthcare or any other industry is bound by profits . The insurance industry left California cause they won’t cover the fires . They would lose a ton of money . Any going to do a drive by on Jake from State Farm ? @Salvy @basso
Here is the thing. In our society HOW YOU MURDER SOMEONE matters. Soft or manipulative violations of people is ok in our society. We ALWAYS blame the victims in those situations A person pulls a gun or physically takes from a physically weaker person . .. . we classify them as a criminal i.e. Luigi here guns down the UHC CEO. Obviously a criminal How every. A person uses a pen to make a decision that takes from a financially/mentally/socially weaker person . . .we say they are just smart/innovative/business man We are not a society about protecting the weak . .. we only protect SOME of the weak . .. primarily physically weaker people who maybe smarter/richer/more connected Which is why many of our leaders are physically weak people That said . .. we also have an inate idea what these people will empathy for other people that are weak is different way THAT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE They are as big or worse bullies than some of the "jocks" that bully the nerds The nerds get to be the bullies .. and they can be worse which is why it is easy for them to mass murder or incapacitate millions with the stroke of a pen They an enrich themselves while millions suffer and They will have a clean conscience because they will say . .. well they should have been smarter it's their fault that I am in a position to violate them They should simply work harder .. . like i did (something they would never say when a physically stronger person violates them . . .. . they will never say they should have lifted more weights or taken martial arts. . .nope when it is them then it's the bully's fault) TL'DR - Capitalism is a system built to subjugate the physically strong to the mentally/financially strong. The CEO is probably responsible for FAR MORE DEATHS than this shooter. We just accept it because he was "just doing business" . . if you kill in pursuit of profit motive in the "socially acceptable" way . . .then we are ok with it Rocket River
turns out it is a gamer issue . . . https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/nyregion/uhc-suspect-video-games.html?smid=url-share The suspect has a background in the games industry. The digital footprint of Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the killing of a UnitedHealthcare executive last week, indicates that he has a background in the technology and video games industry. Investigators are only beginning to learn about Mr. Mangione, who was arrested in Altoona, Pa., on Monday on gun charges after a McDonald’s employee recognized him and called the authorities. His social media accounts and assorted other websites have offered a glimpse into his interests, including curiosity about self-improvement, clean eating and critiques of contemporary technology. Mr. Mangione, 26, worked for a number of tech companies over the past 10 years, according to his LinkedIn profile and a former employer. He also maintained an active online presence on gaming platforms like Steam, and co-founded UPGRADE, the University of Pennsylvania’s first video game development club, when he was a student there. Mr. Mangione’s interest in games started at a young age, when he began exploring the independent gaming community online, according to a now-deleted interview published to the University of Pennsylvania’s campus events blog, Penn Today, in 2018. He wanted to start creating games himself, and taught himself to code in high school. “That’s why I’m a computer science major now, that’s how I got into it,” Mr. Mangione said in the 2018 interview. “I just really wanted to make games.” The University of Pennsylvania did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Along with a handful of friends, Mr. Mangione started his own game development company, Approar Games, in high school, according to posts on his LinkedIn profile and social media accounts. The group published at least one app, called Pivot Plane. Later, Mr. Mangione went to work as an intern at Firaxis Games, publisher of the enormously popular computer game franchise Civilization, according to his LinkedIn profile. He worked on the sixth installment of the game and, as part of a team of 10 people, fixed more than 300 bugs in the user interface, according to the profile. A spokesman for Take-Two Interactive, the owner of Firaxis, confirmed that Mr. Mangione was a former employee but declined to comment further. At a news conference on Monday, Joseph Kenny, chief of detectives for the New York Police Department, described Mr. Mangione as born and raised in Maryland, with ties to San Francisco, and said he had lived in Honolulu until recently. Mr. Mangione’s passion for games and engineering ultimately led him to pursue bachelor’s and master’s degrees in computer engineering at Penn, where he graduated in 2020, according to his LinkedIn profile. He went on to work as a data engineer at TrueCar, a digital marketplace start-up in Los Angeles that connects car buyers and sellers, according to the 2018 interview. TrueCar confirmed that Mr. Mangione worked at the company, but said he has not been an employee since 2023. In the interview with Penn Today, Mr. Mangione said he could never imagine a future in which he would no longer make games, and that he had created his college club to rally others to see the “benefits and pure fun” of making them. “Passion is what we’re looking for,” he said.
"Social murder" is a concept coined by Friedrich Engels that is the more "academic" term for what you are describing here.
Do buddy cop shows that white wash policing and make cops look like badasses that attract the worst type of people to our law enforcement system part of this analysis of how media influences social violence? Video games are no where near unique in propagandizing Americans. I would say our movie and TV industry has brainwashed America far more successfully than videogames. The hero worship of our law enforcement and military is a product of media consumption that started way before video games. I know it's difficult to accept that your generation was victim to media brainwashing also.
Thank You. I will have to look into it. The thing is society has enter a stage that VIOLENCE comes in so many different forms and we simply have not caught up with the variation of violations Physical Violence is easy. Like Physical injury is easy to spot but Mental Violence and Mental Injury are not so simple Now we have Financial Violence Social Violence Environmental Violence We are not prepared to evaluate these Copaganda is a thing Rocket River
Cops here really catching strays out of nowhere. This conversation had nothing to do with policing. I think you accidentally put down your "Death to CEOs" placard and picked up your "Defund the Police" one instead.
Because it in no way justifies or excuses the murder. This is discussed plenty. But bringing it up in connection to the murder of the CEO is wrong. All of what I just said should be obvious to anyone with decency and common sense. Shame on those to whom it is not.
@AroundTheWorld out here working tirelessly to make this a woke thing or a left vs. right thing. Even trying to make an objectively evil CEO with a half billion dollars a working class hero. Damn the boy is desperately trying to shift the narrative.
I have both stickers on side by side. Do you think you have the ability to shame me for my lack of respect for the law enforcement profession and the health insurance CEO profession? Try your best bud. Someone posts an article about the influence of God damn video games... Ya I'm going to bring up the lack of self awareness people like him and his generation havent realized with the amount of abject brainwashing they received from media. For some reason they think video games magically is the form of media that influences. Can't comprehend decades of watching Mel Gibson style buddy cop shows, Top Gun etc that fetishes violence has corrupted so many minds and provided horrible motivations for why people joined military service or law enforcement.
You spoke sincerely to me once like yesterday. I hope that good will carries over when I ask this question: Do you actually sincerely believe in what you type here?
How thin is the veil of hero worship of our armed professions like military and law enforcement in his country when people realize how much of the motivations for why the vast majority of people join them is extremely superficial stuff like 80s and 90s action movies? If we can convince society that is the primary motivation for why most dudes join these professions, do you think we can break through the undeserved hero worship?