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Bregman has signed with the Boston Red Sox

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Rockets34Legend, Sep 18, 2024.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    See: his salsa is so bland that even his kid can wipe it all over his face
     
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  2. Joe Joe

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    Here's the thing, it is the owners job to protect the owners. It is the players job to protect the players. Basically, the veteran players and the owners have agreed to a system that takes money from younger players and gives it to veteran players. The owners like it as it allows smaller markets to field competivie rosters on cheaper talent, but still give large markets an edge by paying veteran players. MLBPA every CBA has lofty goals about getting younger players more. They actually got more than I expected last CBA for younger players, but in the end..the essential several years in the minors plus 6 years of club control still exists as MLBPA balks at big concessions regarding veteran players in exchange for paying younger players more.

    To cause the younger players to get paid more, the current system of veterans getting overpaid would need to end as owners aren't going to overpay veterans and then turn around and pay young players just as much.

    I llke that the NBA basically has a provision in their CBA that specified players get X percent of revenue such that the CBA is mostly not about money.
     
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  3. Buck Turgidson

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    The vets (MLBPA) have forever and will not ever give a **** about young players.

    "That's how we grew up...so that's how they get it"


    Bingo.
     
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  4. BlindHog

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    Why do you keep trying to solve this imaginary problem. Baseball is an American sport. Rooted in American values. Players who have put in their time to earn their place deserve that place. Until then nobodies convoluted ideas of fairness matter.
     
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  5. IdStrosfan

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    Because 40 years ago, players stayed on teams for 10+ years.

    Most fans like the idea of having players on their favorite teams over 6-7 seasons.

    I'm sure fans of teams like Miami and Tampa Bay are tired of revolving door rosters.

    I envision a system that gives teams a little bit of incentive to keep their players rather than being forced to trade them, or losing them to big market teams that can afford these outrageous contracts.
     
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    Heads up, I’m willing to be a reference if you ever chase your dream of working for the league / Astros org.
     
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  7. SamCassell

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    Aren't you the same guy who's against paying veteran players long term contracts? The guys who have put in their time?
     
  8. IdStrosfan

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    I know this isn't directed at me, but since I have been prominent in this thread. . .

    I am absolutely 100% in support of veterans getting as much money as they want/can.

    I am advocating for 2 things.

    1) adjust the system to give younger players salary or benefits more in line with tenured players, so the disparity is not as vast.

    2) Find a way to make it more beneficial for teams to keep their players long term without taking away the players' right to choose.

    I envision an MLB where FA contracts don't look and feel so much bigger than younger players so mid level veterans stop getting kicked to the curb in favor of pre-arb guys and players stay longer with a team and playing for 5 or 6 teams is no longer the norm.
     
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  9. raining threes

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    LMAO
     
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    I am the same guy who is against paying veterans more money and for more time than they are likely to be worth. Or less.
     
  11. Castian Crew

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    THIS JUST IN- HOT OFF THE PRESS from CBS and BLEACHER REPORT today.

    Alex Bregman Rumors: Astros Offered 6-Year Contract 'Worth Around $156 Million'

    Oh wait, forgot. We already knew a month ago LOL
     
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    If that’s true then they truly made him a competitive offer.
     
  14. BlindHog

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    Final offer? Is it enough to get it done?
     
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    For sure, beats the reported Adames contract in TCV and AAV.
    Would certainly think it is probably close to best and final, they may ask that he checks back before signing somewhere else, but I'm sure they want to start moving on any contingency plans this week with the Winter Meetings starting.
     
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    Soto is gone, so this is it. Is it years or the magical "$200m" figure or both. If the 6/$186m doesn't go, I'd try 7/$201m, mid-loaded as a final, final offer.
     
  17. Castian Crew

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    Maybe Boras was hedging his bet. Got Soto on the overpay to allow Bregman to come back for cheaper :)

    Bregman "So Astros offered 6/$175, should I take it?"

    *Boras counting his coin* "I don't care what you do now. We good!"
     
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    LMAO,

    Boras would hold his grandmother hostage if he thought he could make an extra buck.
     
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    Tucker looking at that 550-600mil 12yrs after next season.
     
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  20. IdStrosfan

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    I think the $200M is significant. I expect the Yankees and Red Sox plus possibly the Blue Jays and Tigers to offer $200M within 24 hrs.

    If I were the Astros I would find a creative way to get that 6/$186M to $200M ASAP.

    Maybe 6/$180M + 7th year player option for $20M w/ $6M buyout. That way the $200M is 100% in Alex's control

    It also reduces the AAV from $31M to $28.57M which is not an insignificant benefit to the Astros.

    I
     

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