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What will it take to make you seriously consider an EV?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by jiggyfly, Mar 31, 2021.

  1. ThatBoyNick

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    lol. what in the world is that man.

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  3. Dr of Dunk

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    Don't make fun of middle-aged men's fantasy vehicles. :D Call it something like a "shooting brake" to make it sound mythical. Well, I guess it would really be an "estate" since it's not a 2-door. Good grief, a 4-door station wagon?! Ewwww. :D
     
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    They have given their new AI design bots too much leash.
     
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    It's a real model 3 hearse convert fellas, the taycan's shape reminded me a bit of one.


    Roaming around like I'm ready for a funa-roll
     
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    They see me rollin. They hatin.

    I have to go to Dallas this Sat to pick up the Taycan.

    kinda weird that I had a Taycan (same color I am getting) as my avatar for a while. Odd coincidence.
     
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    Mercedes’ Solar Paint Could Make Plugging In EVs a Thing of the Past

    It sounds like an idea straight out of a five-year-old’s imagination: A car covered in solar panels runs entirely on energy from the sun. As far-fetched as it seems, this isn’t pure fantasy. Mercedes-Benz says it’s developing a solar paint that would allow electric vehicle owners in places like Los Angeles to power their daily driving without ever plugging in.

    The German automaker teased the idea last week during a future technology showcase at its R&D center in Sindelfingen, Germany. The photovoltaic material starts as a paste and is applied to body panels in a layer that’s just 5 micrometers thick—thinner than a human hair. Covering every body panel of a mid-size SUV with the material would create 118 square feet of sun-harnessing surface area, a more than three-fold increase compared to the 32 square feet available from a single flexible panel on the roof.

    Mercedes claims such a vehicle could capture enough energy to drive about 12,500 miles a year in sun-soaked Los Angeles. A cloudier city such as Stuttgart, Germany, sees enough sunshine to provide 7,500 miles a year. Mercedes isn’t saying exactly what the photovoltaic paste is made of other than that it contains no rare earths, no silicon, and relies on readily available, non-toxic raw materials.

    Each body panel needs to be galvanically isolated and wired into a power converter that sends the electricity to the battery or directly to the motors. The solar material is topped with a nanoparticle-based paint that allows 94 percent of the sun’s energy to reach the photovoltaic coating while offering a full spectrum of color choice. Darker colors capture more energy than lighter hues, with the coated body panels achieving up to 20 percent efficiency in turning sunlight into electricity. That’s on par with today’s commercially available solar panels.

    As an advanced research project, it’s too soon to know if this solar paint will make it to production, but the fact that Mercedes is talking about it publicly means there’s some substance behind the concept. Here’s to hoping the future includes cars fueled by free energy.
     
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    Insurance costs are going to be insane on these cars.
     
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  10. Sajan

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    This thing is......fast and drives like a Porsche. I

    This is my 4th EV and just put 300 miles on it.
    Less range (~225-230) than the Nissan/BMW (280-300) but it should be good enough for in town needs.
     
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    Weird. What year/model? Porsche usually sandbags their range and a lot of Taycan drivers were getting better mileage than what the EPA estimated. They're one of the few if not the only major manufacturer I think that was actually getting better than claimed mileage.
     
  12. Sajan

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    2024 GTS.
    Has performance plus battery.

    I am at 78% right now and it shows 180 miles.
    Maybe it will improve as it learns my driving habits?

     
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    Where's my pickup truck?
     
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    If you want to get a F150 lightning, I can help you get a deal.
     
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    A Power-Dense Battery Will Charge 186 Miles in 5 Minutes—and Change How We Drive Forever

    • Increased power and range of electric vehicles could help turbocharge their adoption—a crucial step toward cutting emissions.
    • The Taiwan-based EV company ProLogium has developed the world’s first solid-state battery with a silicon composite anode, which is capable of charging from 5 percent to 60 percent—or 186 miles—in just five minutes.
    • These batteries are also more energy dense, meaning that they can help lighten vehicle weight (and prices) or soup up subcompact EVs.The adoption of electric vehicles (EVs) is often described in terms of “anxieties,” whether they be related to range (how far an EV travels on a single charge) or charge (how long it takes to recharge a vehicle’s battery). Things have improved significantly since the introduction of the 2010 Nissan Leaf, but battery technology and charging infrastructure both have a long way to go to reassure a large swath of the car-driving public that an EV is just as worthy a purchase as a gas-powered vehicle.
    Luckily, the Taiwan-based ceramic battery manufacturer ProLogium has recently introduced a new battery technology that packs more power in a smaller package while charging wickedly fast—around 186 miles in just five minutes, according to the company. This incredible breakthrough comes in the form of a silicon composite anode battery, a solid-state battery that out performs both mainstream lithium-ion and lithium iron phosphate batteries. The company originally unveiled this battery at the 2024 Paris Motor Show in October.

    According to the German certification company TÜV Rheinland, this world-first silicon anode EV battery delivers 321 Watts per kilogram (W/kg) by weight, which exceeds even the highest ratings of current lithium-ion batteries. As for those charging times, the company says in a press statement that a 186-mile charge in five minutes is far faster than the industry-standard 30 minutes that many other batteries need to power a car over the same distance. Additionally, 186 miles is only 60 percent of the battery’s capacity—it can reach 80 percent in just another 3.5 minutes.

    “Our new technology has broken through existing barriers,” Dmitry Belov, chief scientist at ProLogium, said in a press statement. “Since 2023, we’ve consistently outperformed our competitors, with the gap only growing larger, in both energy density and in fast-charging performance.”

    ProLogium estimates that this power-dense battery could cut vehicle weight by 300 kg (661 lbs), improving efficiency while cutting vehicle costs. Conversely, automakers could pack more power into subcompact cars by keeping the weight as-is. Perhaps most importantly, these batteries are also modular, meaning that they are easier to service, repair, and replace. The company hopes to begin production of this new battery by 2027.

    “Due to the significantly increased energy density...the energy storage system can be designed to be smaller and lighter for a vehicle with a targeted driving range, thus reducing power and space requirements,” Thomas Hülshorst, vice president of FEV—an EV company who partnered with ProLogium to integrate the battery into electric vehicles—said in a press statement. “By combining ProLogium’s visionary technology with FEV’s engineering strengths, we are paving the way for the future of sustainable mobility.”

    These new batteries are arriving at a crucial moment, as replacing at least some of the currently one billion gas-guzzling vehicles on the road today with the electric alternatives remains a top strategy for curtailing emissions. Though EV sales continue to grow, that growth has been slowing in recent months, especially compared to the explosive growth seen over the past decade. The creation of more powerful solid-state batteries and the continued proliferation of chargers should help make any sort of lingering EV anxiety a transportation malady of the past.
     
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    how much?
     
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    Exclusive: Trump transition team to roll back Biden EV, emissions policies

    Trump plans to cut EV support, impose tariffs on battery materials
    Proposals aim to boost U.S. production, redirect funds to national defense
    Transition team suggests rolling back emissions standards, blocking California's stricter rules

    The transition team calls for clawing back whatever funds remain from Biden’s $7.5 billion plan to build charging stations and shifting the money to battery-minerals processing and the "national defense supply chain and critical infrastructure.”


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    TSLA up 4% today..
     
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    I bet tesla will get an exemption for importing batteries.

    TSLA doesn't trade on any fundamentals. Its based on your faith in elon and so far he seems to be winning.
     
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    Analysts are tripping over each other to keep increasing their price targets to keep up with this euphoric rise because Elon is best friends with trump.
    This feels very much like the mania in 2021 around the time they announced a deal with Hertz. The stock was exploding every day. It will eventually stabilize or correct.
     
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