1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

BIDEN PARDONS SON

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Dec 1, 2024.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2009
    Messages:
    29,987
    Likes Received:
    14,006
    lol bittch, how was your year in hiding being bent over
     
  2. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    81,381
    Likes Received:
    121,732
    Eric Adams Suggests the Biden Pardon Proves He Was Also Targeted
    The mayor has argued that he was indicted because he criticized border policies. He also said that he has rights that migrants do not because “the Constitution is for Americans.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/03/nyregion/adams-pardon-biden-trump.html

    excerpt:

    Eric Adams, the indicted mayor of New York City, on Tuesday presented what might be deemed his closing arguments in the court of public opinion.

    Ever since federal prosecutors indicted Mr. Adams in September on corruption charges, the mayor has protested his innocence and suggested, without evidence, that the case is payback for his outspoken resistance to President Biden’s border policies.

    On Tuesday, Mr. Adams offered what he seemed to suggest was a piece of evidence. Bending down to pull a copy of the day’s New York Times from behind his lectern, he read from a front-pagearticle related to Mr. Biden’s pardon of his son Hunter.

    “President Biden and President-elect Donald Trump now agree on one thing,” he read, eliding the president-elect’s middle initial. “The Biden Justice Department has been politicized.”

    “Does that sound familiar?” a smiling Mr. Adams asked the reporters gathered for his weekly “off-topic” question-and-answer session at City Hall.

    “I rest my case.”

    Mr. Adams was charged with bribery, wire fraud, conspiracy and two counts of soliciting foreign contributions for his mayoral campaign.

    Last week, the mayor made the same argument in particularly explicit form in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. The reporter asked if he considered his indictment retribution for his criticism of Mr. Biden’s immigration policies.

    “Yes, I do,” Mr. Adams responded. “People were not happy with me. It doesn’t have to be the president, because there are a lot of other people unhappy that I fought for this city.”
    more at the link
     
  3. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    114,040
    Likes Received:
    175,814
    LOL Crackhead sent a link to the White House press release

     
  4. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,808
    Likes Received:
    132,400
    First - I don’t think Trump cared about cover - he was going to pardon any and everyone he wanted to. He learned that lesson from his first term. He will even pardon himself out the door.

    Second - no, it isn’t understandable that he pardoned his son. He is President of the USA - not chairman of the Elks Lodge. He has an ethical obligation to the country and the office. If he cannot put his own **** aside, then he shouldn’t run for President. He has coddled and excused reprehensible behavior by his son for decades and it didn’t politically sink him, but it was a bad look and ultimately he caved yet again to his son.
     
    Xopher and FranchiseBlade like this.
  5. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,808
    Likes Received:
    132,400
    Don’t worry Adams will turn MAGA like other disgraced liberals kicked out of their party. MAGA will take anyone - from CTE Steelers and Packers, to Blago and the Cuomo grifters. I’m surprised Jesse Jackson Jr. isn’t parading around town in a MAGA hat.
     
    FranchiseBlade and Os Trigonum like this.
  6. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    81,381
    Likes Received:
    121,732
    don't know if you saw this but New York saw a fairly significant shift in Democratic voters changing their party registration to Republican. Also a larger shift of Democrats to independent status.

    https://nypost.com/2024/12/01/us-ne...-in-ny-from-2020-24-in-ominous-election-sign/
     
    Nook likes this.
  7. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,788
    Likes Received:
    20,447
    It is understandable. It's completely wrong but it is totally understandable.
     
    Xopher and Nook like this.
  8. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,808
    Likes Received:
    132,400
    Not terribly surprised because of culture issues and economic ones. I know that the “big story” is Trump winning the election- but to me it was seeing the size of voters shifts in places like NY and Chicago and California. It will likely take another election or two to see if it’s a mirage or not - but it does show voters willing to shift conventions and the changes being made in the parties.

    When the Democrats lose the working class and lower middle class to a billionaire showman from NY- you know the Democrats need to change course.
     
  9. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,808
    Likes Received:
    132,400
    Fair enough- yes I think it is understandable and most people would do what Biden did, but most people shouldn’t be President.
     
    FranchiseBlade likes this.
  10. GOATuve

    GOATuve Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2023
    Messages:
    4,004
    Likes Received:
    3,369
    You sound unhinged. No criticism of the left. Not neutral at all
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,788
    Likes Received:
    20,447
    What the hell are you talking about? His whole point is that Biden is wrong for pardoning his son.
     
  12. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2003
    Messages:
    36,838
    Likes Received:
    35,699
    BIDEN PARDONS SON = BRANDON DOPINESS
     
    Nook likes this.
  13. HTM

    HTM Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    7,906
    Likes Received:
    5,712


    TYT and noted MAGA Ana Kasparian.

    No foreign lobbying going on here. No corruption here.
     
  14. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,182
    Likes Received:
    20,334
    If you feel your son is being gone after soley for being your son, then yeah, I think most parents would F everything and help their son out. It's just reality of life.

    Do I agree with it? No, I am just saying I get why he did it. My problem is that he said repeatedly he wouldn't. That's the problem. He should have just punted on those questions instead of drawing a line yet lying bold-faced to everyone.
     
  15. cml750

    cml750 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2002
    Messages:
    6,817
    Likes Received:
    5,552
  16. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    65,082
    Likes Received:
    32,786


    I don't 100% agree
    But interesting

    Rocket River
     
  17. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    81,381
    Likes Received:
    121,732
    the IRS whistleblowers weigh in

    link will work for everyone

    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/hunters...9?st=kYH1Ki&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    Hunter Biden’s Pardon: Your Tax Dollars At Work
    Ordinary Americans are held accountable when they defraud the IRS. Not the president’s son.
    By Joseph Ziegler and Gary Shapley
    Dec. 3, 2024 at 1:20 pm ET

    The White House’s story on Hunter Biden keeps changing. The president supposedly had no knowledge of his son’s business, then no involvement in it, then no financial benefit from it. The goal posts moved as more facts came to light. Before the election, Joe Biden promised he would respect the legal process and issue no pardon or commutation to his son. This week he went much further than pre-emptively commuting any sentence to keep his son from prison. He issued a broad pardon for any and all crimes over a nearly 11-year period.

    He gave his son the sweeping immunity to which career prosecutors refused to agree as part of an aborted plea deal. When that deal collapsed in July 2023, Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed a special counsel. Despite his testimony to Congress in March 2023 that Delaware U.S. Attorney David Weiss had full authority over the matter, Mr. Garland granted special charging authority to Mr. Weiss.

    These dizzying narrative shifts happened because the two of us blew the whistle and exposed the preferential treatment the Biden Justice Department gave to a powerful political family. Our story never changed—because we told the truth.

    President Biden’s pardon is an insult to every honest taxpaying American. He claimed that his own Justice Department unfairly targeted his son. On the contrary, we produced mountains of evidence and testified under oath about the machinations his Justice Department, including Mr. Weiss, used to shield the Biden family from a thorough investigation of alleged corruption in Ukraine, Romania and China.

    This year, a jury found Hunter Biden guilty of federal gun charges in Delaware and he pleaded guilty to willful tax felonies in California. The president’s letter falsely suggests that his son was merely late in filing and paying his taxes because of serious addictions. He wrote that in such cases, when back taxes are paid with penalties and interest, they are often resolved without criminal penalties, but his son was treated differently. That’s malarkey.

    The American people need to know, and the president’s letter omits, that Hunter Biden admitted to intentional felony tax evasion—criminal charges for which ordinary Americans are held accountable every day. Hunter Biden admitted that he filed false tax returns with the Internal Revenue Service—knowingly and willfully, while sober. False deductions taken on his tax return contradicted statements he made in his memoir, which he wrote while sober. These false deductions included things like a sex-club membership, luxury vehicle rentals, and house rentals for his then-girlfriend.

    Ordinary Americans are routinely held accountable for that kind of tax fraud, but Hunter Biden will escape accountability because his father is president.

    Joe Biden’s letter doesn’t mention that his broad pardon also absolves his son of any other crime in the past decade that the Justice Department didn’t fully investigate. In a public filing in August, special counsel Weiss’s office alleged that Hunter Biden “agreed to attempt to influence U.S. public policy” on behalf of a Romanian businessman but didn’t charge Mr. Biden with a violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

    The dishonesty that has infected the Washington political class must stop, and the bureaucrats in the Justice Department and IRS who have abused their power and acted unethically ought to be held accountable.

    The constant retaliation against us as whistleblowers should cease, and those responsible should be held to account. Nonprofit efforts such as DefendWhistleblowers.com are helping. Without serious reform and major changes in personnel and policy, something like this will happen again. We will keep our oaths as sworn federal law-enforcement officers, stand up for fair and equal treatment of every taxpayer, and speak out against improper politicization of the Justice Department.

    Messrs. Ziegler and Shapley are IRS special agents.

     
  18. Scarface281

    Scarface281 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2009
    Messages:
    10,097
    Likes Received:
    4,672
    You love to see it. Classic Democrats. Setting themselves up like a bad punchline.

    First they accuse Trump of undermining the justice system with pardons and now Biden gives Trump the perfect cover. It’s like they’re playing chess, but they’re stuck on checkers rules. You almost have to admire the consistency in being consistently wrong.
     
  19. HTM

    HTM Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    7,906
    Likes Received:
    5,712
    "I'm going to issue this 11 year pardon, one of the most expansive in Presidential history [afaik] and essentially unprecedented, but don't worry everyone, Hunter definitely didn't break any federal laws [other then the tax evasion and gun laws he broke] peddling influence and being paid millions by a Ukrainian natural gas company in that time period and I definitely didn't personally benefit from any of it" - Sleep Joe.

    Everyone else:

    [​IMG]
     
    Scarface281 likes this.
  20. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    81,381
    Likes Received:
    121,732

Share This Page