Kamala lost cuz she didnt tackle the disinformation that trump spread. It was disinformation that allowed trump to win Trump spent 4x the money on trans ads than he did on the economy
BTW It's a great use of my time responding to a coward who can't even live in the country he made most of his living in and is now wishing it to burn down for the pitifully narcissistic hope of "being right." Will subscribe and reply again.
I mean, Harris did say in the past and wanted to pay for trans surgery, but that was when she ran left of a progressive dominated primary. She walked that back, but those words surely hurt her. It's part of why she wasn't a great candidate to begin with, but the anti-Trump anyone but Biden good vibes waive gave hope to those thinking she could win. As for immigration, Biden has adopted most of Trump’s prior policies by now and then some. And Harris adopted pro-wall positions, lol. They ran center way too late when they let the left dominate border policy for 3 years. We'll see if Trump goes further right or reverts to pre-covid policies. Whatever happens, I want to just reiterate for the 100th time, immigration policy is complicated and the laws are outdated. How much money do we offer and takes our offer to unload Venezuelans when Venezuela won't take back Venezuelan flights? And it's not always about money.
Kim, it was trumps Whitehouse that paid for gender affirming cars. It was Trumps doj that allowed that ( https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/16/us/politics/trump-prisons-transgender-care-harris.html ) Trumps made in Mexico policy was ruled unconstitutional by a Mexican supreme court. Biden does not control Mexicos supreme court. Yes i agree with you that Biden should've signed the executive order much sooner limiting immigration and I def blame him but the remain in Mexico was ruled illegal. The bottom line Harris didn't run a single trans ad. Trump ran 5x the amount of anti trans ads than economic ads. It was the culture wars that allowed trump to make inroads in minority communities. It was not economic anxiety that allowed trump to win.
Trump added more to the debt than biden. Biden manufacturing spending and infrastructure bills were both paid for by tax offsets. Trump tax cut scam that he's promising on extending will cost close to 5-7 trillion dollars. That's more to the debt than anything biden did combined
Dafuq you're still doing here? You escaped the American hellscape and won. Your angry little man act makes me think you didn't have any friends or weren't happy in America. Enjoy your bikes or whatever in Denmark.
If the economy is bad because of inflation, if inflation is bad because of spending, if Trump spent more than Biden (and net increased the debt more), then why does this make sense? Asking as a non pretentious moron.
The why is somewhere in this thread maybe by me or someone else. I also called Trump out for spending like a drunken sailor. He openly didn't give a **** about debt the first time, so this round will be interesting since he needs a good rate from the bond markets to borrow even more. Biden sold his spending as for the working people, but the same working class Biden spent those trillions on voted Trump more often than Biden.
She did say it though, which is what was run on. There was a definitely an anti-PC vibes to those ads too, but mainly anti-trans. They were effective, I agree. As for the economy, inflation did matter, but nothing is single factor when it comes to voting. All the issues matter to some degree. If you want to match your passion with truly nerding out and being more aware of how much certain things matter, take some stats classes and grad school poli-sci classes.
Kamala did better with white voters than any modern president. She got 1 million MORE votes than Biden with white citizens but fell off a cliff with minorities especially Latinos. As i said in the other thread minorities tend to skew right on social issues ( trans, gay marriage, trans sports ) which is why Trump spent heavily on social issues and less economically. He ran 5x the amount of trans ads than he did about inflation. There's a reason for that and I give him credit. Harris should've gone on the attack and ran ads how Trump was the person who paid for trans therapy. Harris didn't do this cuz she didnt wanna upset her activist base which is the core issue of the democratic party. They keep pretending that activists have any real power and they pander to them.They need to learn how to throw people under the bus more often. The bottom line is Harris only lost by 275k votes in 3 states. If she pivoted earlier on social issues and ran an effective ad campaign shed be president right now. She should've thrown Biden under the bus for his immigration policies and pivoted on social issues and attacked Trump for being the woke one. Inflation is not the reason Harris lost if you actually dig into the numbers. Harris lost cuz of trans/immigration issues. Harris won more white votes in every swing state compared to Biden. She just got destroyed with minorities cuz they tend to be more conservative on social issues and trump ran a good ad campaign on immigration/trans. She improved on biden's margins. Harris should've pivoted on trans issues and went on the offense and properly tell people it was Trumps DOJ that paid for trans therapy.
Again internal polling at Teamsters showed that folks voted for Trump cuz of trans issues and immigration. My cousins canvassed for the campaign and they came across hundreds of doors where voters actually thought their kids were having trans surgeries at their local school. Trump told people that public schools under biden were conducting trans surgeries without their parents consent and people bought it. Americans are extremely stupid people. Sorry for the facts
As I keep saying. democrats are the new Republicans. The party of whites and privliged class. The minorities are running. They have all the big money backing them, thus raising more than trump. Democrats are the new deplorables.
The worlds richest man gave more than 250 million dollars to help Trump so he can get another tax cut. Three billionaires combined to give Trump close to half a billion dollars. You're funny. It would be interesting if in a decade or so Democrats adopt tax cuts and deregulation. Biden was the most pro labor anti monopoly POTUS in history and it led to nothing. Future democrats understand that there's no upside to being a progressive. Minorities are more obsessed with culture war garbage than anything economically. In the future we will have a complete realignment. Trump is a con man pretending to be a populist when in reality hes a anti labor billionaire con man pushing for tax cuts. The next generation of republicans will pivot to being more pro labor pro anti big business.
80% of the money spent on Ukraine goes to Republican states for manufacturing. You are sincerely the dumbest richest person i know. Utterly braindead of a human and a utter moron
This is an overstatement that's not supported by the evidence. Trump improved with young minority men and won the men group across the board. Trump also won most white voters. I think 8 in 10 black voters went Harris. 2 out of 3 Latinos went Harris. It's not an easy divide to sum up. Blacks, whites, Latinos, whatever - groups at becoming less monolithic and that's a good thing, and I'm not saying they were in the first place. There are cross cutting divisions when it comes to money, education, race, sex, location.
I'd say that Biden has been the most empathetic candidate to labor union workers since Bubba Clinton. He knew how to feel authentic with them and not dismiss their struggles in his campaigning. Compare that to Hillary who took rust belt blue wall states for granted and called them flyover country (let alone the leaked emails from his campaign mgr...) and that area becomes more and more up for grabs, Not to say that Biden would've won the blue wall states. They're too receptive to col increases despite build back better related works in there. Those chip plants in AZ werent worth a spit in the bucket for Democrats as residents felt it was more a corporate giveaway. It didn't prevent Intel from laying people off in other fabs either. The Dem messaging for males has been ugly as well. Let's pretend everyone forgot all the doozies coming out of Biden's press corps... Kamala's campaign was tailored more towards women in reproductive rights, education, workplace benefits, and even family planning. Men in surveys weren't necessarily sexist or zero-sum minded, but the areas that mattered to them like job opportunity, wage growth/sustainability, and price stability weren't directly addressed. It was the absence of solid answers for them that allowed Trump to paint whatever vision he sold. I mean Dems can continue to brow beat male voters with crude messaging of being better or some meta-level crap like that commercial where the Red State wives give each other a nod at the voting booth, but there has to be some underlying vision that doesn't sound like men are missing out or comes at the expense of them. There are many men who dropped out of the workforce, who the media or angry left online will call lazy brainwashed losers who need to nut up and work harder or smarter. They wouldn't have voted for neither party, but theyre coming out for Trump. Good for them, because I'd rather they have some if small trust in the voting process now than give up and radicalize into something desperate. They cut across ethnicities and demographics, so the message isn't catered purely towards white supremacists as what the media has been calling out for years. It's going to take time unwinding what identity dem leadership wants for the party. The economic side is deeply crusted with monied interests from wall st and silicon valley. The favors...all those backroom favors made Kamala's responses tortured and empty sounding. She knew her standing was weak with her direct benefactor still at the helm. It's too hard to give up wall st or silly valley when even a smaller vocal minority switched camps for trump and dumped hundreds of millions into his campaign.start with that first rather than terrible social policies that only sound good in theory and are pushed by people with zero experience in execution and are unaccountable when those social policies blow up and fail. The latter is the lipstick on a grotesque and swollen pig,
@adoo i guarantee you all these shameless MAGATs @AroundTheWorld @Salvy will suddenly claim credit for bidens policies in this thread after bashing them for the past 4 years. Mark this post. Every time a MAGAT will claim credit for a Biden achievement I'll reply with this post. Its so obvious what these losers are going to do. They spent years bashing Biden policies only for these same folks to do a 180. No shame no values no morals
