I suppose I could rephrase my statement. They have a 0.00001% chance, that chance comes from a lot of injuries of other teams. Something like what happened to the Warriors a few years ago but to an even larger degree. You simply just do not win it all with the youth the Rockets have in a series of 20+ playoff games. 75% of the production would have to come from guys 21-22 years old. This is all conjecture anyways. I was only making a point to apachewarrior. The window is opening, not "open."
Jalen Green and Sengun contracts kick in next year. I'm getting a jump on that a year early. Unless the wheels fall off the Rockets should be a top 7 seed. 1) we get our young players Playoff experience. 2) squeeze a decent 2nd or 3rd offensive option in making $34M - $36M which is under the going rate for his skills when the new CBA kicks in. He would probably go for $46M - $49M next year on the open market. 3)In free agency in summer '25 free agents will be expensive. Grant/Cam Johnson would be worth &46M to $49M the Tatum/Jalen Browns will be at $60M to $65M per year. 4) New CBA discourages or tries punishing teams from have 3 big dollar contracts. Jalen Green and Sengun are not super max deals but still forces the Rockets from bringing in a Durant, Kyrie Irving, Star star for more than just two years. 5) Jerami Grant is not a rental......contract control. If better than Jabari.....keep Jerami. If Jabari is better then you keep Jabari. VanVleet and Dillon are $65M or so designed to come off the books about now. 6) 3rd Big Star hunting is the mistake Morey made. Subtracting Jalen and hoping to bring in two stars is a pipe dream. People need to get their heads out of the clouds. Stars join stars. VanVleet or Dillon are not draws and Sengun be himself attracts no one.
Atlanta Falcons made the Super Bowl with 3 or 4 rookies starting on defense. People told them they weren't suppose to do that as well
After this season, Green will be getting paid like a star, so he will have to be. The problem we have is a lot of guys (Tate, Adams, Jeff Green) that we would use now in a trade will be coming off the books this offseason. That’s nearly $30m in expiring contracts that we need to move this year. Jalen and Sengun’s new contracts may necessitate just allowing these players to expire and walk. Without those contracts next year, Jalen is going to be the most obvious player to include in the acquisition of a star player.
It’s not Jae’sean Tate money. Where you think the cutoff is is subjective. My point was that his contract is likely going to necessitate his inclusion in any trade for a star player.
Oh I agree with that. The deal made a Jalen deadline deal this year less likely and a deal next offseason more likely. The good thing about waiting until next offseason is any major trade at the deadline likely will have to include FVV or Brooks. I’d like to keep them if at all possible. It also gives us more time to evaluate.
He'll be the 51st highest paid player next season. Obviously he's never had a season where he was a top 100 player so he'll be overpaid considerably. Idk how many players you consider stars though so it would depend on that.
On FVV and Brooks, that is unlikely. I'd guess a major in season deal would cost a couple of SRPs over the offseason to pay off a team or two to take on salary. I just don't see Stone passing on a deal over a couple of extra SRPs because he misjudged when a star would become available.
What do you mean "obviously." I'd say he's a top 100 player, just in the bottom quartile. Most top 100 lists I've seen agree with that assessment. So, overpaid yes. Considerably, no.
Not sure what you mean? I don't think it's unlikely at all. If we are going to make a major deal, I think it should be next offseason with a Green centered package. Green + Cam + filler + draft capital will be a compelling package, if we decide to go that route. Otherwise, I'd stand pat at the deadline unless a too-good-to-be-true trade comes along.
Obviously i guess means there’s no actual metric or data to show he’s a top 100 player and has never been. Anyone can say anything, you can say you think he’s top 5 but there’s no evidence of it.
lol, whatever you say. CBS has him ranked 69th. The Ringer 79th. CBS 92nd. That's pretty strong evidence. But hey, you're still on your anti-Brooks kick, so I question your analytical abilities.
Haha he's the famous player on the team, Cade the last few years ranked even higher on those lists and he was even worse then jalen. As an example, Jalen is 237th in EPM right now. That means a lot more to me than where random people rank him.
This is the right move. Houston will always be bargain hunters in the trade market as long as they have assets to upgrade the roster but they are not in any rush to capitalize on a depreciating asset with any of our players. That goes for Jalen too who may be up and down but is paid accordingly and still has a fair amount of upside to teams willing to gamble on the inconsistency. Ultimately with the growth of all of our guys, Jalen can have quite scoring nights and still be a reasonable play at the SG for us. Thankfully for us, for the first time in Green's career we don't have to depend on him for anything other than "make the right play" and normally that means him passing it along....and when he is the hot hand, we ride it. It's weird, but it's also working out this way.
Again, you don't have an argument. Just nonsensical ramblings. I'll tell you why I think he's a top 100 player at the moment. His PIE is around 60th for players averaging 30+ mpg. He's top 30 in Net RTG among players averaging 30+ minutes, higher than Sabonis, Gobert, Wemby, and Harden. He has a 106 defensive rating, which is extremely impressive given the minutes he plays. Yes, he's a top 100 player, "obviously."
The only hinderance in doing a trade for a star in season is the poison pill provision other than whether or not a star becomes available. If a star becomes available in season, the Rockets would likely have to pay a couple of SRPs to get around the poison pill provision in addiiton to whatever the cost would be in the offseason. I doubt that if a star demands a trade that Stone would sit out a bidding war for a star because the time isn't ideal. Stone would accept he messed up and cough up a couple of SRPs for poison pill salary matching purposes in addition to whatever the team with the star wants (assuming the price not counting the SRPs is acceptable). On Brooks and/or FVV, I just think the Rockets would rather lose a couple of SRPs and work around poison pill than trade one of those 2.
Ohh, I see what you mean. I'm don't have the greatest understanding about the impact of the PPP, but yeah, if it's the right trade, I doubt the Rockets will let a SRPs deter them.
Those are not individual stats, his net rating is good because he's on a good team. He's 12th on the rockets in on/off, almost at a -10. His defensive rating is great because he plays with a bunch of great defenders. Do you think Christian Braun is an amazing offensive player because his offensive rating is incredible? Or maybe it's b/c he plays with Jokic? Theres only like 80 players who play 30 mpg
