I thought we all learned a few weeks ago that pardons are official acts and immunity is immunity so whoopsie daisy
Yep, he will do it just like Trump after the election when it doesn't matter, and Hunter will be FOR SURE....I used to think he would just commute his sentence, but now I believe full pardon and good for him for doing it. DD
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/11/26/opinion/thepoint#biden-hunter-pardon-trump A Disgraceful Pardon Bret Stephens If Democrats want to understand one of the reasons the Republican Party is ascendant, they can look to President Biden’s pardon on Sunday for his son Hunter. In its rank mendacity, political hypocrisy, naked self-dealing and wretched example, it typifies so much of what so many Americans have come to detest about what the MAGA world calls “the swamp.” Start with the mendacity. Last December, Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary, insisted, “I’ve been very clear: The president is not going to pardon his son.” The president reiterated the point in early June, when he told ABC’s David Muir that he would not pardon Hunter if his son was convicted, as he later was, of three felony charges related to his purchase of a gun while he was addicted to drugs. The younger Biden also faced separate criminal tax charges. It was always a good bet that the president would break his word as soon as it was politically safe to do so. But he doubled down on dishonesty in his statement about the pardon, claiming Hunter’s prosecution was a result of “political pressure” on the judicial process. Nonsense. The charges stem from Hunter’s reckless lifestyle, abetted and financed by his willingness to trade shamelessly on the family name. A previous plea agreement between Hunter and federal prosecutors fell apart last year under scrutiny from a federal judge. More obnoxious is the hypocrisy. Every year, federal prosecutors file hundreds of cases against persons charged with lying on the Firearms Transaction Record, or Form 4473, which is required from anyone buying a firearm from a licensed gun dealer. In 1993, then-Senator Biden made that form a key part of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act. How is it that the same president who made both gun control and stricter tax enforcementkey parts of his political message suddenly sees his own son’s transgressions as nuisance offenses? As for the self-dealing, it’s touching that the president invoked his feelings as “a father” in letting his son off the legal hook. Too bad that luxury isn’t available to so many other parents who watch helplessly as their children run afoul of the law — and pay the legal consequence. After the news of the pardon broke, a liberal friend wrote to say that perhaps it wasn’t such a big deal, at least when considering Donald Trump’s choices for attorney general and F.B.I. director. OK. But when a Democratic president behaves as Biden just did, it fuels the corrosive public cynicism that helped elect Trump yet again while licensing and excusing whatever plans the president-elect may have for politicizing justice and using it for the benefit of friends, family, and self. What a degrading finale for Biden’s feeble, forgettable, frequently foolish presidency.
What are your thoughts of Trump using the term "amorphous" to describe the "enemy from within"? Is he trying to make his political enemies a broad claim to tag on to American citizens for any perception of being against Trump's agenda?
A 10 year free roll is pretty neat. Hunter is probably kicking himself for not milking more. All of you MaGats better stop calling Hunter a felon. He is an artist.
Father And Son, Pardoned https://blog.simplejustice.us/2024/12/02/father-and-son-pardoned/ excerpt: When Donald Trump pardoned Crazy Joe Arpaio, there was a smattering of criticism that lasted minutes, maybe an hour or two, before he did something else that caught the media’s attention. Joe Biden is unlikely to be so lucky when it comes to his issuance of a pardon to his son, Hunter, after the many disavowals that he would do so. Is the problem that he pardoned Hunter, that he flip-flopped, maybe lied, about not pardoning Hunter, or both? He said he made the decision because the charges against Hunter were politically motivated and designed to hurt him politically. “The charges in his cases came about only after several of my political opponents in Congress instigated them to attack me and oppose my election,” Mr. Biden said in the statement. “No reasonable person who looks at the facts of Hunter’s cases can reach any other conclusion than Hunter was singled out only because he is my son — and that is wrong.” The problem with Biden’s statement isn’t the he’s necessarily wrong, that Hunter’s prosecution wasn’t a proxy for his father and that the prosecution of Bunter Hiden would likely never have happened. The problem is that there is nothing in the White House statement that’s any different today than a month ago. What has changed are circumstances. Donald Trump has been elected president, and appears likely to exact the retribution he promised in his campaign. Hunter Biden may not have been an elected official. He may not have held any office, elected or appointed. He is a private citizen by any definition. But he is the son of Joe and he is in the direct line of fire. There are few ways to hurt a father more than to punish his child. {Biden} added: “There has been an effort to break Hunter — who has been five and a half years sober, even in the face of unrelenting attacks and selective prosecution. In trying to break Hunter, they’ve tried to break me — and there’s no reason to believe it will stop here. Enough is enough.” If this claim of selective prosecution to do damage sounds familiar, it is. This is the same claim made by Trump and his sycophants, that no one but Trump would have been prosecuted for claiming his pay off to a p*rn star would have been hidden behind a bill for legal services, and worse still, no one but Trump would have had such a minor offense bootstrapped into a felony by a novel legal theory of dubious merit. While not quite the same, the Florida prosecution for retaining top secret documents, not to mention lying about having returned everything and concealing the retention, bore a slight resemblance to Biden’s keeping possession of confidential docs, even though Biden cooperated in their return. The same cannot be said for the Washington prosecution for January 6th, but the others were enough to make the point that Trump and his sycophants believed he was targeted not for his crimes, but to prevent his re-election. That, of course, didn’t go well. more at the link
What are your thoughts on Trump rallies posting pictures of Latin brown skinned men and the speaker at the stage asking the audience "are these the type of people you grew up with?"
The Hill with the receipts Here are the times that Biden, the White House said they wouldn’t pardon Hunter https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5017190-hunter-biden-pardon-white-house/
When Stephen Miller at a rally said "for Americans and only Americans" was he doing homage to Hitler 's line of "for Germans and only Germans"?
Hypocritical, sure. But, I'd think Biden was a piece of **** if he didn't pardon his son. Family is important to me, and I'd definitely think less of him if he let some political criticism stop him from taking care of his family. His explanation that the prosecution was politicized has some merit, but I don't like it as a rationalization. I think the special prosecutor felt some abnormal pressure to not look like he is using his discretion to corruptly let Hunter Biden off easy. But I think that's a feature, not a bug -- we want to hold these politically powerful people to a high standard to guard against corruption. So to offer that as a reason why a pardon is appropriate implicitly says that holding politically powerful people to a high standard is somehow inappropriate. It would have been better, imo, if he simply said, "I'm the president, this is my son, and I'm doing it. **** all yall." In this case, I think it'd be better if Democrats were all offended by his abuse of power instead of reflexively defending whatever he does.
lol. giving new meaning to the phrase, double down Karine Jean-Pierre claims ‘war politics’ is the reason for Hunter Biden pardon — but insists DOJ isn’t weaponized as Trump claims https://nypost.com/2024/12/02/us-ne...n-insists-doj-not-weaponized-as-trump-claims/ spoiler alert: journalists pretending to be journalists for a change
Democrats: The cases against Trump are NOT politically motivated. You can trust the DOJ, the Manhattan District Attorneys office and the New York AG's office. You can trust elected prosecutors/AGs who ran their campaign on finding something to prosecute Trump for. Also Democrats: The cases against Hunter are ARE politically motivated. You cannot trust the DOJ.
Prosecutors are people. In all of these cases if a case lands on your desk to investigate, or is in the public domain that crimes have occurred, and you are responsible for prosecuting or not prosecuting, of course you are going to think about the perception of you being someone that had crimes committed on your watch, and the public knows you let it go because the person was too politically powerful to touch. -Did politics play into the decision to indict Trump in Manhattan... at some human level of course -Did politics play into the decision to indict Hunter Biden... at some human level of course The question to ask yourself though is WHO IS PUTTING THE CRIMES ON THOSE DESKS? In Trump's case it was him all day every day. Trump was so blatant in the crimes he committed that he was practically begging to be prosecuted. Stealing and hiding classified documents was stupid, and HIS FAULT. Calling a Secretary of State and trying to bully him to literally change votes to steal a Presidential election??.... Hello... THAT IS TRUMP'S FAULT. He put the incoming DOJ on a position where they would look like Trump lackeys if they did NOT prosecute. Hunter Biden on the other hand... he paid his back taxes obviously because he was trying to AVOID the IRS putting him in jail. etc. It was Republicans in Congress, and the Right Wing Media that drummed that case up enough to where politics played a major part in the indictment coming, and the guilty plea being revoked. Was Hunter Biden an idiot to commit crimes and fck up his life with drugs, prostitutes, etc.... well yeah... but he wasn't literally forcing crimes out there in the open to be plunged onto a special counsel's desk. The two cases couldn't be more different. And most importantly... Trump was running for President in order to "Be a Dictator on Day 1." Hunter Biden was not running for office. Yes prosecutors are people and think about the public perception and that skews their decision to indict or to not. However the main question you guys are avoiding here is how the hell did these crimes get there in the first place to where the public so easily knows about it, and influence the politics of the decision??? Trump getting indicted, and convicted is his own damn fault. He taunted the system in broad daylight, and if Bragg, or Jack Smith decided to ignore they would have looked like Trump toadies for the rest of their lives and would go down in history as accomplices to presidential crimes at a level we've never seen. Hunter Biden is just a fck up son of a President who has no impact on the lives of Americans one bit other than giving you MAGA nuts someone to obsess over their dick pics.
