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The Amen delusion must stop

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Noob Cake, May 17, 2023.

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  1. MystikArkitect

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    Cam's is much trickier to work on. Right now he gets by on burst and brute strength. But once teams pick up on those tendencies and take them away, he's going to have to figure out counters. You can already see him on the court telling himself "no...don't shoot" which is sort of good. It's going to take time for him to re-adjust to working within an offense and not just jack up a shot when he feels like it. He's similar to Jalen in that he takes some dumb ill advised shots at times. Cam Thomas for the Nets is another but he lacks athleticism.

    Amen is completely different. He makes the right decision more often than not and just let's the game dictate what he does. And because he can help you when he's not producing on offense, it makes him an absolutely elite prospect. He's the second most impactful player in this draft class behind Wemby and I'm curious to see their development.
     
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    He has guarded the perimeter top five in the league. His only problem is confidence and muscle. Next year he will have more of both. Over the next 2 years he will be able to guard 2-4. We are set up for an incredible defensive team next year.
     
  4. DrNuegebauer

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    I suppose he'll get some burn on SGA today, should be interesting to see how he handles himself against the a guy who excels in baiting defenders to bite
     
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    little blurb in the athletic about #CAMEN:

    https://theathletic.com/5293062/202...lsenewsletter&campaign=9116567&userId=6559290


    Amen Thompson and Cam Whitmore, SFs, Houston
    The Rockets have no tanking incentive with their pick committed to Oklahoma City, so even as the top 10 in the West pull away, Houston should remain competitive.

    However, the Rockets should also keep an open mind about the future, and that means giving their two electric rookies plenty of rope the rest of the way. Thus far, they’ve combined for barely over a thousand minutes, with the bulk of them coming recently. It’s hard to overstate the instant energy jolt when these two enter a game, generating turnovers with disruptive defense, flying up and down the court in transition and playing above the rim at both ends.

    I wrote about Whitmore two weeks ago and some of his areas of focus. In Thompson’s case, the pros and cons are fairly cut-and-dried. It’s pretty obvious a 15 percent mark from 3 looms as a weakness, and he also needs to cut down on the turnovers in traffic.

    On the other hand, he’s a ridiculous athlete: a 6-foot-7 wing with a 15.5 percent rebound rate and one of four players with a steal rate above 3.0 percent. Some of his help-defense snags are mind-blowingly quick.

    Look at these two clips below, for instance. He rudely dispossesses Bojan Bogdanović in the first clip after deciding he isn’t buying the Knicks’ fake handoff to Jalen Brunson; in the second, Brunson barely has time to process that Thompson has charged in from the corner to double him before Thompson absconds with the ball:

    videos at the link.
     
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  6. burlesk

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    I just love his demeanor -- all business, no bs, focused.
     
  7. Nook

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    In February Amen is averaging 14 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 1.5 steals and 1 block…. On a usage of 18%… that’s not a typo on the usage. His TS is 61%

    I don’t know what the future holds, but it isn’t accurate to say Thompson would be in the G-League without his excellent defense… the last month he is shooting over 70% at the rim.
     
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    Yeah - he can defend threes well if he has the right defenders around him. He has some lower body strength issues and sometimes takes too long to decide to switch - but he is like 19-20 years old. I’m not worried about his ability to defend the 3 well with consistent defenders around him. He has Amen Thompson which will help a lot, and Adams at the 5 with Sengun at the 4 will help a lot as well.
     
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    SGA is the rare guy as quick as Thompson. Amen has the length and athletic advantage and SGA has a deep bag and experience advantage.
     
  10. Stephen_A

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    Look at all the dumb mutha ****@rs on here doubting Amen. Like I said many of these fraud fan experts have no clue what they’re talking about but run their mouths and judge. Starting with @Bobbythegreat fraud. Zero analysis but instead judgement and assumptions.

    They look dumb AF then and worse now
     
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    Yo boy always right
     
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    Hey look, the little kid wants attention again....
     
  13. Stephen_A

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    If that’s the case How do u look responding to it? Lmao idiot

    Tell us again: What did you say about Amen in 2023?:D
     
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    I am shocked that I don't have a dumbass take in this thread. I was kind of excited to go back and read my post but it's not here.
     
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    Hey I still remember how frustrated and sad I was when the Rockets got the #4 pick after having hoped for the #1 pick and a generational talent. But the talk was there was one generational talent and 2 other franchise defining talents. But here the Rockets were picking 4th in a draft that had 3 franchise players.

    But here we all sit in December 2024 and Amen is sitting alone atop the WS for the 2023 draft class. Scoot Henderson sits at the tail end of the draft.

    I was excited about Amen to be a rotational player. But Amen has every bit the chance to be a franchise defining star too.
     
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    Same LOL...I just went back and re-read the thread really quickly.

    Surprisingly, I refrained from making a premature judgment.

    Others...cough cough @Reeko...not so much.

    But the best post in the thread, once again, belongs to @DaDakota, and has nothing to do with Amen.

     
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    Less than a Year ago there was so much hope for Cam, even before the season started the redraft of that class had Cam as top 5, unreal how far he has fallen.
     
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    Always had tunnel vision and lack of passing ability which he did little to improve.
     
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    Just for fun.

    The advanced stats don't lie.

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