Shooting and consistency do not come naturally to everyone, it looks easy but in games it is much harder than in practice.
I think patience is in order for all our young players. Wanting to bench Jabari or Jalen is misguided this early in the season, unless it is just temporary to get across a message. It is not all Ime’s fault. Jalen cannot continue to take 9-12 3’s a games unless there is a reasonable expectation that he will make 35% of them. I don’t think FVV will continue to shoot this poorly so that should open things up a bit more for Jalen. I believe a greater portion of the half-court initiation should start with Amen and Jalen and Fred become more of a spot-up shooter. Sengun started out the year being more aggressive taking 3 pt shots and Flamingos and Ime needs to encourage more of that. Our identity is a great defensive and transition team. We should lean into that more. Amen should be starting and Tari should get 30+ mins a game if he is physically capable. Dillon Brooks has been our most reliable spot up shooter. He is already reverting back to the norm. He had a great game that was preceded by a stinker and followed by a stinker. Continuing to bring our best player off the bench is foolish. Let him shut down the other team’s best scorer from the get go. Don’t let them build up their confidence.
I've said it before, in a previous season, but the best defense against the Rockets is to just treat Jalen like a total non-shooter. Opponents don't have to give him the Ben Simmons treatment where they hang off him by 8 feet, but they should just go under all the screens set for him and have the guy guarding him always be the one who comes off to provide help. Every team goes under screens set for Jalen because that's just an obvious move at this point for bad shooters, but Portland actually did both last night, when Grant was the primary Green defender. Grant was always ready and willing to leave Green open to provide help elsewhere, knowing that the ball would then go to Green who would then launch a brick because, in theory, a shooting guard should always shoot open, good shots. Unfortunately, our shooting guard cannot make those open, good shots. If Jalen Green was 1/3 of what we he should be, we win last night's game easily. We needed a guard who could hit open shots. We didn't even need a guard who could create and then hit open shots (which Jalen also can't do); we just needed a guard to make the open shots. Oh well. It is what it is. I think we've all accepted his limitations at this point.
Jalen getting a contract extension just didn't make sense, at least make him work for it. Judging by his shooting, he hasn't worked hard at it.
I don't know how hard he's worked, but I just don't think he's ever going to be the kind of shooter people want him to be. Not everyone can be great just because they practice. I agree that he didn't earn that contract, especially when he only had a couple months of actually good averages last year. He has never gotten consistently better at shooting, even with plenty of minutes on the court. Look at Jalen's stats compared to guys below after only their 2nd year in the NBA. How many Championship teams have a starting shooting guard as mediocre and inconsistent as Jalen? It sucks, because we have some really good defensive players, but don't take our offensive defecits seriously enough. Year 2 stats La Mello Ball - FG 42.9 / 3 PT 38.9% Haliburten - FG 45.7% / 3 PT 41.3% Anthony Edwards FG 44.1% / 3 PT 35.7% Jalen year 3 stats FG 42.3 / 3 PT 33.2% Year 4 stats FG 38.2% / 3 PT 30.7% Last 13 games FG 35.5% / 3 PT 25%
Ball also gets sticky in Jalens hands and you can see is he is getting benched because of this. He needs to understand that with his athletic ability, his job is to go fast and hard at the hoop, get the big guys in foul trouble, and then every now and then shoot the three. I kind of wonder what are Jalens stats with set 3pt shots, 3pt shots off the dribble, open and contested 3pt shots.
I just don't see Jalen changing much. Remember last year when people said he should quit taking so many 3's and just go fast and hard to the hoop? Yet, he's taking more 3's than anyone on the team this year. I don't know if in his mind he thinks he's a great 3 PT shooter or what, but he isn't. That's just a fact. There are plenty of guards in the league much better than him at making 3 PT shots.
another ignorant take and loose interpretation of what the term “bust” means from impatient and foolish fans. let me remind you: many of you said Amen played against “high school kids” and won’t be a good pro player. Many here also questioned Jabari’s skills and called him a bust. They also said Dillon Brooks can’t play and has no business starting. Meanwhile they praised Cam Whitmore due to a few games of dunking and shooting threes despite the fact he hasn’t played well since MAR last year. So many if not most fans on here cannot be trusted. Their words mean nothing. Mere judgements, conjecture, and hate.
I think this is what gets him in trouble the most. He overpenetrates cuz he's going too fast to the hoop. Where is his change of pace? Where is his euro step? What happened to the floater he shot as a rookie?
so far this season 2nd most 3 pt attempts for player with 3 FG% 31% and less https://www.nba.com/stats/players/t...-25&SeasonType=Regular Season&dir=A&sort=FG3A
He won’t stop jacking up random 3s and it seems like Ime is not telling him nothing. Fred does his curry impression every night, he’s supposed to be a passer not a shooter
So you’re saying he is 0/3 of “what he should be”? What does 3/3 mean to you specifically? If you watched the game multiple Rockets players were left open. This goes back to last season as teams simply don’t respect the Rockets shooting opting to play zone or sag their defenders to prevent dribble drives from Jalen and Sengun. If you have been watching you would understand our offense is so compressed with little movement and jumbled players on the wing with little spacing at times. The actions are simple with FVV or Amen initiating the offense either off high screen with Sengun or dribble drive option or dumping to Sengun in high post for DHO drive option. This is the gist of this simple miserable offense that goes nowhere many times and doesn’t move defenses. This is why you see it stall so much. Where’s Jalen? He’s in the corner as the set drawn up by udoka and his coaches call for. Again much of this is about opportunity and how we play. The offense just isn’t right.
Last night showed how guard play is still an overall issue and will hold the team back on certain nights. Jalen looked like he had turned a corner as the year started but it looks like more of the same. Don't know how long FVV or Jalen will be here really beyond this year. Need better consistent guard play to really be a real contender in the West.
I think him taking the most three's is the most infuriating thing about his game, the way he is going his percentage will be worse than Amens, now that would be embarrassing. There are times players have a somewhat open shot and then quickly make one more pass to Jalen for a more open shot and he clanks it, that's frustrating. Anyways the sooner Coaches and Jalen realize that Jalen is not a volume three point shooter, the quicker some of these shots may go to better shooters. Sometimes he is not even penetrating at all, just dancing around the three point line looking for a difficult shot. I think part of the blame is also on coaching, coaches can tell Jalen to use certain things more in a game, then its up to Jalen to use them. Kind of reminds me of Harden a little bit, when he first came to Houston he had a lot more variety in where he got his points on the floor, then when he became a volume three point shooter he lost his variety, which made him more predictable during playoffs.
If only Jalen Green was half the player Harden was. I get what you're saying though. When he first got here he was better in the clutch cus he didn't settle for threes and layups. Late game you need a midrange game to get off a good shot. Cutting out the midrange for a few quarters is fine but as the game condenses he needed to add it back in.
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I am not excusing his poor shooting. It’s been awful to watch. He has switched to being a passive and hesitant player again. The aggression we saw late last year and the first 6 games and couple games in between isn’t consistently there anymore. What’s the reason for this phenomenon? As i explained ad naseum to fans on here. Udoka experimented with giving Jalen the ball to create and play make the first 6 games of the season. This was thru staggered screens double drags etc ran for green. After that Warrior blowout game and the Sengun 5 game slump having dropped 3 games in this span i believe Udoka panicked and decided to change things. I have noticed he went back to the same exact set last year when green struggled. This means Green is in the corner looking for backdoor baseline cuts or DHO coming off Sengun up top. Which has proven to be completely ineffective since last year. I think Green is the type of player that needs to get the ball consistently to get going and a rhythm as we have seen this in the past. Now The main action is dominated by FVV and Sengun. It’s baffling how we play but this is how Udoka runs this offense. It’s almost as unbearable to watch as Van Gundy’s offense.
Exactly! There is still time for Jalen to realize and change his game then maybe he can be half the player Harden was. As a Rockets fan I just want our players to be the best they can be to win some chips.
