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Rockets, Jalen Green agree to 3-year, $106M deal

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Oct 21, 2024.

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Do you like the deal?

Poll closed Apr 21, 2025.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

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    Hopefully the front office doesn’t overreact to the playoffs, because we’re so young it’s probably gonna look ugly
     
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  2. Verbal Christ

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    How close can they keep it to the 3&D blueprint? If they can operate within that at a high level come playoff time they will do well. Moreso we will get to see who is made for the bright lights and pressure packed moments. Regular season efficiency impact metric stat stuffers who shrink in the biggest games of the year dont really float my boat.

    If the front office is going to overreact it will come way before the playoffs.
     
  3. meh

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    I'm really surprised people here thinks Fertitta's personal salary ceiling for this team is the second apron. No owner go from avoiding the luxury tax like the plague to be willing to pay up to the second apron just like that. Yall think he likes to pay out $50mil rather than getting a $10mil check for being under the tax? If he wasn't paying up for CP3/Harden team, he's not paying up for this one.
     
  4. Risingred

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    If we get into the playoff, we are likely to make into the 2nd round and get destroyed by OKC. The style of plays Ime imposed is built for playoff because the whistles are not blowing as frequent as the regular season.
     
  5. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    Ummm, I'm pretty sure the Rockets have added at least $2B to his wealth since then. I'd go out on a limb to think if the Rockets have a team that is worth going to the 2nd apron, he'll do it as it will help him improve his wealth. I don't think the Rockets add FFV and Brooks to a 20 something win team if his wealth was not capable fo going up to the 2nd apron with a good team (or at least close enough for all intents and purposes).
     
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  6. astrosrule

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    Eh they're just sooo young that i wouldn't take any stock into how they perform in their first playoffs, like i said most likely it's gonna be real ugly. Not sure what you mean by the efficiency comment unless that's a shot at harden/giannis? Pretty much every player is worse in the playoffs, the lebron/jokic of the world ain't walking through that door.
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Still ok with his deal.

    DD
     
  8. Verbal Christ

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    Make your 3 point shots particularly the open ones and defend at a high level. Nothing that 3rd and 4th year players + a few vets and a championship level coach couldnt navigate. My focus would be on those end of shot clock, quarter or end of game defining possessions. Who will want the smoke? Who will actually perform when everything is on the line?

    I dont give as much attention and credence to the stat jousting throughout the season and rankings as some sort of consolation prize. Yeah great we have a GOAT and keep getting clowned in the biggest games of the year - AWESOME! At least Giannis won one for the Bucks.
     
  9. astrosrule

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    giannis won because of injury, not because of anything he did. Enough injury luck and 15 teams could win the title this season. He's a joke in the playoffs, worst playoff performer of this generation and nobody is close
     
  10. Verbal Christ

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    27/12/5 with 2 stocks per game and a +278 in the playoffs doesnt do it for you? You're a tough sell.
     
  11. KingCheetah

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    It's wild that the first NBA 100 million dollar contract went to Juwan Howard back in 1996 -- getting Jalen for the same price 28 years later is an amazing bargain.
     
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  12. invocux

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    The funny thing is, when he leaves the team won't even feel his absence. Nobody will miss him. He'll be forgotten the next game becauss the new shooting guard will make his shots and even Green fans will praise him. We will instantly look forward. So all this dickriding, ass rimming, ball slurping, butthole vacuuming is for nothing.
     
  13. Aruba77

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    We could’ve been real players in the trade market for an impact shooter or rim protector if we had just not extended Jalen. I don’t know why we didn’t do what OKC did with Giddy last year, or what Brooklyn is about to do with Cam Thomas. GS didn’t extend Kaminga and has all options on the table. Now no one is gonna trade for Jalen without us attaching a positive asset to get off his money. It really handcuffs us for no reason. I actually think we are a better team if we replaced Jalen with just a really good role player. Jalen is not a good NBA basketball player and the $36 mil per just shows that Stone can’t move off his mistakes. At this point if you are not tired of Jalen you haven’t been watching the games since his rookie year.
     
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  14. OremLK

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    It's fine. Nothing has really changed at this point. Jalen is doing what he always does, sucking pre-ASB. At least his defense has continued to improve, which is a good sign for him to be a true two-way player in his prime years.

    It's a tradeable contract next season and there's still a chance he makes real improvements to his shooting, although I will say that every season he treads water in that aspect of his play makes me more pessimistic that it'll ever happen.
     
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  15. Nook

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    His deal isn't going to crush the Rockets - and $35,000,000 isn't as much as it used to be on the cap. I never thought it was a fantastic or terrible deal to be honest. Both the Rockets and Green decided to hedge their risks and agree to a compromise contract.

    From the Rockets perspective, they were more interested in seeing how Green would progress, as they need a franchise player and Green has shown some flashes.

    The season isn't over yet either - Green could bounce back and I expect him to be better if he and his teammates start hitting perimeter shots.
     
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    Reminder: Jalen’s contract has a 10% trade kicker, so if you think it is a negative asset already, it will be moreso in a trade.
     
  17. harold bingo

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    If your coworker was making 27% more than you, would you say that you are making "nearly the same salary" as him? If you made 100k and he made 127k?
     
  18. clos4life

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    Well, 100 over 7 years is very different from 100 over 3, even 28 years later.
     
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  19. ChillyPete32

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    I get that but the team payroll against the cap in the third year could start to get a little dicey. My main issue is the third year player option. If it were the same numbers I'd say

    2 + 1 (team option) - Really like it
    2 - Like it
    3 - Eh
    2 + 1 (player option) - Kinda bad but not potentially franchise crippling
     
  20. lakersuck2

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    $30M over the cap is the same as $1 over the cap. If you're already over with the other contracts it doesn't matter what you add on as long as you don't hit the second apron. If you want to reallocate that money to a veteran, you'd have to clear out the other contracts first.
     

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