I don't know what they were, but that would not be surprising given the political shift of the Democratic & Republican parties that happened well before I was born, but that wouldn't make it centrist. That is just pure made up fiction. And FWIW, still trickle down economics.
I agree with most of what you have said here, if not all. That is why I said the justification, either way, is a moot point. To add, I would like to say there is not a single reason why Putin invaded. He is not the good guy by any means and the political structure of Russia is such that its detrimental to the country as a whole. And you're correct, Russia should be very prosperous given its vast resources. However its up to the Russian people to find solutions. I don't think removing Putin will solve the vast majority of its problems nor do I think he should stay in power. The wealth is so tightly concentrated that it doesn't give opportunities to distribute the wealth. This is why many are fearful of overly consolidated socialism. I haven't been anti or pro for either side. I have always felt the US should take a back seat, especially in NATO. It feel likes the US is calling all the shots in NATO and that is wrong. This is why when people were polled over Ukraine during the elections, Ukraine was not a top concern. When we have honest conversations, we tend to find more in agreement than disagreement.
Love it, let the Ukraine fight back, Russian red lines are 100% bullshit....they are scared shitless right now, their country is collapsing, their military is failing, and Putin is a paper tiger, they might fall in the next 2 months.....maybe Trump will take credit for Biden's work. DD
I agree with you on NATO, but a big part of why that's an issue is our importance at the table after WW2 kind of saved Europe from Hitler, and brought Japan to heel with Hiroshima. NATO is important for us, and really important for Europe, but moving forward it would be ideal if it was Europe centric instead of US centric. It's good they have mostly European leadership, but yes it would be great it it was more equal financially, and less reliant on Lockheed, and Raytheon. I think with Finland and Sweden joining that's a good thing for our role maybe being taken down a notch. Finland has kind of a badass military, and very few countries in the world would want to think about invading them or their ally. We'll see what happens with Trump and Elon trying to broker a deal here. I cannot stress how dangerous it is that one of our Billionaires basically is running the US now but I will say that on the Ukraine issue maybe Elon has a card to play that the US normally would not. Maybe expanding Starlink or SpaceX to Russia or something is a card that he can play that plays a role that benefits peace. Either way it sort of makes me nauseous to know that we are at the whims of a weirdo who names his son "AE A-12" or whatever him and Grimes came up with after taking shrooms or whatever. There's also the fact that if any of Ukraine stays free from Russian rule (which I'd assume they'll keep everything west of Dnipro) then the Western part of the Country will for sure have to be part of NATO, and the EU. That's where I think it's a sticking point for both countries. There can never be guaranteed peace for Ukraine if they are not allowed to part of NATO, and their economy cannot reach it's potential without being part of the EU. That's why I'm skeptical Putin agrees to terms at this point, and Trump & Elon probably fail at whatever proposal they can put on the table. But we'll see.
At the onset of the 2002 invasion, Putin would only talk to Biden and snubbed Euro leaders. The EU has mostly agreed that keeping Russian aggression in check is important. Former soviet bloc states want more action and supplies to stop the Russian advance since they're sitting in front of a Russian 4th and goal. France, Sweden, Finland, and the UK would like to be in the drivers seat but mostly to tell what the US should buy and send over to Ukraine...which isn't happening but will go halfway to contain China/NK/Iran. Germany was a late comer and paid for it by burning coal. All of them have stepped up NATO dues and funding Ukraine. Outside NATO, Japan and S. Korea have upped military aid and funding for Ukraine. For the dissenters, it's probably only Orban and Turkey. The ongoing fact is that both sides have made the US the de facto shot caller, and it should be because it has the most money and hardware to make a difference either way. So I don't see this as something where Biden is calling all the shots and dragging NATO tooth and nail like a "Coalition of the Willing." He's some spaced out geezer who's half out the door, right?
The R controlled House does not know how to govern / legislate. Maybe the country would do better with the Ds in charge? Just saying.
The propaganda has turned normal Americans in to complete r****ds. YEAH lets have WWIII WOOHOOO lets shoot rockets in to Russia. Holy ****ing dumb.
Do some homework on why Russia attacked Ukraine. This is all caused by the Biden administration. Yall don't do your HW and just vote for the same party without a care in the world of what they do.
Biden was POTUS in 2014? Putin said he attacked Ukraine since Nazis were running free there. Did Biden instigate a Nazi uprising in Ukraine? Curious what your Home Work has to say. BTW I surprised you took a break from sucking on Putin's ****, long enough to type a reply here.
Folks, this is why teh Putin Piss Babies (@AroundTheWorld @glynch Trump Musk etc) were pulling so hard for MAGA 2024: Putin Sees America Hurtling to Disaster, With Trump at the Wheel By Mikhail Zygar Mr. Zygar is a Russian journalist and the author of the newsletter The Last Pioneer. The American election results were received with enthusiasm in Moscow. President Vladimir Putin, offering his congratulations, seemed genuinely pleased. But it’s not because Donald Trump is seen as a pro-Russian politician or even one of their own — those illusions faded long ago. Nor is it the prospect of an advantageous peace deal in Ukraine, ruthlessly brokered by Mr. Trump. The first reported call between the two leaders, which the Kremlin denies took place, suggests that the incoming administration will be no pushover. Instead, the excitement comes from something else. It’s that to many in the Kremlin, a Trump presidency might bring about the collapse of the American state. The idea that the United States is entering the final stage of its history has been kicking around Russia for some time. For years, it was confined to fringe voices. But since around 2020, figures from the Kremlin have been making the argument, too. Leading the charge was Nikolai Patrushev, a former director of the Federal Security Service and one of Mr. Putin’s key advisers. Widely regarded as Russia’s leading hard-liner, he was among the first to claim that America was on an inexorable path to implosion. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/19/opinion/putin-trump-russia-america.html
Please explain how Biden caused Russia to invade Ukraine? Did he trip Putin causing his army to fall into Ukraine?
