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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. pmac

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    Nope.

    Most plays start with a PnR or dribble hand off to the guards. They take the shot or drive if they aren't stopped. When they are cut off they dish it to Sengun on the short roll. Sengun is then the playmaker with many options. Earlier in the season shots weren't falling and Sengun was selecting to finish the play himself rather than pass it out for another brick.

    That's my point. The rockets are running the same plays from the beginning of the year. it's mainly guys hitting shots, Ime's tighter rotation, weak defense, and Sengun's continued improvement. It's not the plays.
     
  2. plegus

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    Well that guys is very toxic
     
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    This is false.
     
  4. glimmertwins

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    But sir, what YOU said is false. If only you had done any research or watched the games. I'm looking at Sengun's passing stats from nba.com from October and November and he is indeed passing more in November than he did in October despite less minutes in November. His adjusted assist to pass percentage is actually significantly higher in November than it was to start the year - he's 15th in the league in November and is in line with a number of elite stars - Ja, Booker, Lebron, Steph, Trae, Luka, SGA, Jokic, etc...but in October he was 65th in the league(filtering out people who played less than 27 minutes). I'm sure if I zeroed in just those first 3 or 4 games the numbers would be even more dramatic but I think you get the point - he was getting the ball looking to score to start the season and then he remembered he's a gifted passer and coincidentally his offense started to come around then too.



    ....by the way, I'm with you guys that it feels like Sengun should be getting 30+mpg. I wonder if this is some Udoka play to make sure Sengun is giving energy on offense and defense and deliberately keeping his minutes low to keep him fresh since that's a harder grind than sacrificing some good defensive minutes for a few extra offensive possessions. I wouldn't want to ride Sengun as hard as Udoka is using FVV, but I think giving Sengun a few more minutes in the game wouldn't be a bad thing(and really should come from a guy like Jabari's minutes)
     
  5. Old School74

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    We all got it, dude! You are a GROWN MAN...Anything else?
     
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  6. anchel

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    ... I invite you to take a pen and paper and write down the plays that started our offense a few weeks ago and compare them with those from the last few games.
     
  7. MrButtocks

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    The only way to see a player's ceiling when they're already excelling is to expand their role and push their boundaries. It's important to at least try because otherwise we could be leaving a lot of potential on the table. The team could always dial them back if it doesn't work. Plus, the best player as a hub is a common formula for success. Jokic and Giannis are hubs for their teams and they have five MVPs and two championships between them.

    Jokic wasn't always the usage monster he is now. After the 19-20 season he had five years of experience with a career highs in scoring average and usage rate of 20.1 and 27.4, respectively. Murray had taken more shots than him every year of his career up to that point. Denver had just gotten to the WCF so why change things up right? Well in the next five seasons Jokic's scoring average and usage rate have been 26.2 and 29.5 and they are more dangerous than ever. And it's not like Jokic being a hub ruins everyone else's rhythm. Everyone in Denver is a potential weapon, in no small part due to him.

    I'm not saying Sengun is as good as Jokic. He might be best suited as a complementary player, but he's shown enough to warrant a bigger role to find out. I don't know how someone can watch what he's doing and say he should stay in his lane.
     
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  8. dream2clips

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    So you literally didn't read your own posts or recall what you write? Or were you being figurative?

    We disagree. We even disagree about what we're disagreeing about. So best to just leave it here momentarily....dollars to donuts you can find the quotes of Adams in your post history and just scroll up on the page you replied to talking about Alpi's no pass self costing us games. It's all there.

    Did you write, "that MF Alpi McDumbass taking it upon himself to get Cooper Flagg to Houston." No, you didn't. Did I say you did? No, I didn't. It's all there. Maybe try reading what you wrote. Or, just write less so you're less accountable. Sounds like either would help.
     
  9. Easy

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    That's not my impression. I admit that I didn't see every possession in every game, and my memory has lots of holes.

    What I saw in the earlier parts of the season was that there were lots of isolations for Sengun in the mid post area on the left side where he tried to work his way to the basket. There were of course PnR and handoffs too. But I wouldn't say "most plays" start with those. There seemed to have a concerted effort to get Sengun's low post scoring going. He passed out to the perimeter only when it was too crowded inside.

    In recent games, there were more up top actions with cutters. Obviously, the Bulls defense is bad and we were able to do whatever we wanted. The Clippers are supposed to be a pretty good defensive team.
     
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  10. hlmbasketball

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    Like Biggie Smalls famously said, "Well if you don't know, now you know."
     
  11. Jorge M Gutierrez

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    L on sengun
     
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    We wouldn’t have been in the game if not for Sengun
     
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    The Rockets are too much either it is working or it is like a congestion. Ugly Offense.

     
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    Alp really struggles against long/strong experienced bigs like Lopez. He's still a tad small when he has to match up against other giants.

    We need plan B when because when Sengun gets neutralized our half court offense is pure chaos
     
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    Pretty bad game by Alpi. He looked flat to me. Just didn't seem locked in and focused for much of the game.
     
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    Give me a Robert Williams to backup Sengun instead of old Adams
     
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  17. RB713

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    Give me this guy on that last play.

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  18. Easy

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    His shot looked tentative tonight.
     
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    I think he got in his feelings about the officiating midway through the game or so, and stopped giving a damn. There were a couple of successive possessions where he didn't even run back on offense, was just nonchalantly walking back while his teammates were running. Just arguing with the refs and complaining when there's a loose ball at play - that happened twice I think. Kind of disappointed as it looked like he was getting better at this this season and it all came roaring back this game. If he aspires to lead this team he needs to be more professional. Hopefully something that will get better with age and experience.
     
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  20. Arnel

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    man that would be awesome. I wonder what it would take
     

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