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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    What shirking accountability for JG bro don't be ridiculous I'm dumping on him all over the board. Get out of your predisposed notions.

    Maybe you try having a wider view and see that can be more complex than 100% this guy or 100% that guy.

    Denver and Sacramento both have a higher pace than us (ranked 12th and 13th). In fact they have exactly the pace I'm saying to play at: average.
     
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  2. apollo33

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    I like how reality doesn't fit your narrative.

    Udoka played Jalen /Tari/Amen/Reed/Adams for a stretch and it was a disastrous, Clippers made like a run to close the game. No one could score in that lineup including Green

    Then he pulled Jalen and put in the starters in with Amen as SG and we immediately went on a run to push the lead to 20 points again.

    Why couldn't Jalen score without FVV and Sengun on the floor. All he did was miss 3's and get blocked at the rim during this stretch
     
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    The actual answer is to just not play him. We did just fine without him and won by 20... it's not a fluke. He's holding the team back. Even Aaron Holiday with all his minutes would be better.
     
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    Think you mean all those tanking teams playing g leaguers was the greatest gift to Jalen.
     
  5. MystikArkitect

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    JG games under 40% from the field: 8

    Over 40% from the field: 5

    Over 50% from the field (aka the SGA): 1

    He can't hit 3s and he can't hit mid range shots. Essentially you take away his drives and make him beat you from the outside. He also doesn't really have the whole "hits one shot misses one shot" thing. He misses a bunch then scores a flurry or vice versa.
     
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    18% of his shots inside 3 feet, and the lowest FT rate since his rookie season.

    Jalen Green will not be a useful offensive player with those ratios unless he becomes a far better shooter.
     
  7. Yinka Dare

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    Wow. How do you even reach the conclusion that my feelings are hurt? Is everything ok there? You're a bigger moron than you seem.
     
  8. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I like how you misunderstand a post and then act smart about it.

    I'm talking about his career, not one night.
     
  9. Downtown Sniper

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    Boy oh boy that first week of the season sure seems like an eternity ago.

    The fact he got an extension before the season started was a joke in and of itself.

    The joke becomes bigger and bigger as each game passes into the season.
     
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    We'll see, but looks like the same trajectory as last season to be honest. After 8 games last season, he had started out hot and was scoring 20.3 points per game on 45% / 41% shooting. The next 46 games leading up to the all-star break, he scored 17.6 points on 40% / 29% shooting. Then he returned to form post-ASB, as we all know.

    It's so frustrating that he just hasn't seemed to progress at all with his consistency and overall shooting ability. If he was a good jump shooter he would be a really good player, but he's just not, and so far I'm not seeing any signs that's changed. Guess we have no choice but to give him some time and hope for the best though, given his new contract. But he shouldn't be playing more than ~25mpg until he demonstrates sustained improvement with his shooting percentages.
     
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    Extending him early was a mistake. They should have made him prove he could be consistent. Oh well, at least they did not max him out.
     
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    I don't mind the extension, it isn't like he is a scrub, he is a borderline all star player.

    The Rockets are COLLECTIVELY a DUDE with their defense, but no one on the team is a DUDE.

    DD
     
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    Neat contract.

     
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    Frequency is 18% but his FG% is 70.7%......higher than the center Sengun (54.1% < 3 feet)

    If we had drafted Dalton Knecht......space for driving would have been more prevalent

     
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    Jalen is not a great shooter. I have pretty much given up hope that he will be consistently shooting great. That's okay. He only needs to be good enough to keep the defense honest.

    The path for him to greatness (or at least worthy of a max contract) is to learn how to draw the defense and make the right play. He has elite ability to draw the defense, much better than consistently shooting from outside. It's a matter of knowing how to use that weapon.
     
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    I think Jalen is always going to struggle if he can't get going at the rim. The way we are being guarded right now is making it impossible for someone with Jalens skillset to succeed. Every team we play is packing the paint aggressively, with anywhere from 2 to 4 players guarding the paint. They want us to jack up 3s, they are begging us to jack up 3s. That's why both Sengun and Jalen are struggling this year offensively. Sengun splits a double team straight into a third defender and gets stripped. Jalen beats his guy off the dribble only to drive into two more defenders. The "right play" is to just pass it out to the open 3 point shooters that we have on every single possession and let those guys jack up 50 3s per game. I don't know how well that would work with our roster though.
     
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  17. Mathloom

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    This is what I don't get. It was obvious before he was drafted. This guy should only be taking 3's when defenses dare him by sagging off. Around 5 per game. He should have reduced his attempts from last season. Instead they increased it just because his form is a bit better?

    But in order for him to get the requisite drives and transition points, we have to have just decent spacing and pace. The coach should be constantly on his case to drive more or pass the ball before considering a 3 or a midrange jumper.

    All we get from Udoka though is "I don't want him attacking the crowded paint" and "those 15 three point attempts are good shots". Wtf? So uncharacteristic of Udoka. A semi-open 3pter is a good shot for Jalen like a semi-open drive is a good shot for Jabari. It's not going to go well if they have to do that 10 times a game.

    Is it really so crazy to do something to help your scorer score? Who tells their scorer to just take whatever shot the defense gives (basically a mid range shot or a 3 that's being closed out on)? Space the floor, force the switch with the big and get out of the way. It's not complicated.

    IMO adjust the offense or let's become a treadmill team, one scorer and 4 role players.
     
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    SLAM has been made to believe that this is Jalen's team right now.

     
  19. Sen89

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    Five-for-Seventeen Green is kinda catchy

    But seriously though, we need an aggressive perimeter scorer with all the toolsy/versatile guys we have -- and until Cam is ready, Jalen has to be the guy who looks to score. Unfortunately he only fills that role well every fourth game.
     
  20. Aruba77

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    he’s not a borderline all star player. What Jalen green are u watching? He’s shooting 38% from the field (terrible) and 33% on 3-pointers, while averaging less than 4 free throw attempts per game…and we just extended him at $36 mil per. When are folks gonna be objective and admit he’s not worth the money we just committed to him? This is the most coddled player I’ve ever seen on the rockets (except maybe KPJ). It’s ridiculous.
     

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