The Trump campaign admitted it's anti trans ads were the single most effective ad they released. Dave Mccormick from Pennsylvania said he was able to defeat Casey by tying him to trans rights. The cold hard reality is that democrats lost bcz Republicans own the culture wars. Democrats need to position themselves back to the center in culture wars and that includes trans issues. Trans folks should not be playing with women. Hispanics are very culturally conservatives and the trans stuff drove them away. I'm sorry but these are facts not opinions. Joe Biden issued the biggest union bailout in American history. 33 billion dollars bailout for 1.2 million pensions that were going bankrupt. It came out to over 120k per union member. After bailing out the union members they went and voted for trump even after having their retirements literally saved by biden. Progressives need to get their heads out of the sand and wake up to the reality which is culture wars are the only thing that matters now. This is why Bernie got less votes than kamala in his own state. I wish things were different but they're not. Social media has turned America into a giant reality TV show
The bigger issues which I've been screaming on these forums for years is democrats have to tackle the disinformation. They can't close their eyes and pretend good governoring is the solution. It's an awful strategy. The Biden folks should've been on every right wing podcast for the past four years telling people what's going on. Instead democrats sat back and allowed them disinformation to flow without any push backh and now are suddenly surprised finding out half the country is brainwashed The reason Trump was able to out run everyone else bcz the American public has a image of trump being a good businessman. Image means everything to the general public. It doesn't matter that trump destroyed the economy during covid cuz voters have a image of being successful. Democrats need to run Mark Cuban and go all in on him. The public has the same image of him as they did trump cuz of his time on shark tank. He's great with the media and is pretty moderate on conservative issue. Americans like drama and a TV personality
Social media will convince people who already are predisposed to this type of hate content that Democrats are obsessed about trans people no matter what the Democrats do outside of just murdering every trans person so trans people can't just exist out in public where a phone camera is pointed at them and is then spammed to social media feeds about how this trans person existing is somewhere is why Democrats are bad.
It wasn't social media fault that Harris never took a stand against trans folks playing in women sports. Its not social media fault that harris took unpopular positions in the 2019 democratic primary. Its 100% on Harris that she took unfavorable positions to back activists. Progressives need to grasp the harsh reality that culture war issues matter more than economic issues. I known it's stupid and dumb but this is the harsh reality that we live in. Biden was the most economically populist POTUS we've ever had and there was no upside to it at all. Democrats have to pivot to the center whether you like it or not. Majority of Americans aren't okay with trans folks playing in women's sports. I'm sorry it's where the electorate is today
You want the Democrat party to take a stand AGAINST trans people? Dude I thought you were just talking about concentrating efforts on culture wars which the Democrats plateaued as far away from during the campaign Dude you are a truly cold blooded to throw people under the bus like that lol. You thought about working as a DNC consultant? They look for people like you. Biden domestically was populist relative to Obama and Clinton. And Kamala told people that Goldman Sacs endorses her economic plan.
To me this is a more clever way to not throw oppressed group on people under the bus and express a populist message at the same time: Democrat politicians should go on Rogan and say stuff like that. Not "oh ya, don't worry we hate trans people also". Hell no. Democra my politicians need to go on Rogan and call human grifter who advances culture wars to allow cover for the wealthy elite to raid you while you are wording about trans people. Frame it like that. Go on Joe Rogan. Go on understanding in your head that you will never return back to the show because you need to go hard on Joe Rogan and call in our as a grifter. You need to make these type of people exposed as charlatans. Go on those shows. Be sincere. Be brash. Tell people like Joe Rogan to their face that you don't respect them. Tell people like Joe Rogan to their face when Democrats go on these podcasts that he's a charlatan. You have to make sure you get the right type of person. Maybe someone who can be frank and sincere like Hasan Piker going on Rogan. He's pretty good at breaking down how the right wing plays up the culture wars. He understands social media and how it effects young males. Ducks for cover for the last suggestion
Not having trans folks play in women sports is not throwing the entire trans movement under bus. There's tons of trans activists who have openly said the sports issue is destroying their entire movement. Trans women have higher levels of testosterone than their counterparts. How is it fair to regular women to be competing against trans women? Progressives don't get it. The smartest thing Republicans did was focus on culture wars and stop talking economic issues. The old-school coalition of democrats is falling apart vuz alot of those fokks are culturally conservative. Union members/hispanics/ working class/ young men folks are very anti immigration and are happy about trans folks playing with women
Again. You're not getting it. The Trump campaign ran more anti trans ads than they did economic ads. You keep trying to pretend the American electorate is somewhere where they're not. I agree going on Rogan and other right wing podcasts is the right way going forward but until they position themselves to the center of culture wars their economic message won't go through. You need to accept the reality of where the electorate is. You realize Hasan Piker himself isn't a huge fan of trans folks right?
You think Democrats control the policy of individual sports leagues? So you know how any of this works? Individual leagues throughout the country have their own unique rules. One league has regulations that allow trans women and a single trans woman joins that league you can bet the entire right wing ecosystem will have their entire weight on that one individual trans person .that's how this **** works. Democrats don't control the narrative. They can control it by going on podcasts and telling people they are being super by culture wars. But I guess they'll take the easy route and scapegoat trans people for why they lost. God help this country. You can provide a populist message without throwing trans people under the bus.
I think I get it dude. I think I understand the right wing's obsession to spam a moral panic about trans people has successfully progangized millions of Americans. I also understand to destroy that propaganda machine you don't do band aid repairs that are highly immoral like attacking trans rights just to ease the fears of one narrative out of thousand spammed by these right wing grifters and social media feeds. You destroy it by attacking it head on by going on these places and telling the audience in front of these hosts to their face that they are charlatans. Say stuff like: " To the fans of Joe Rogan. I want to ask you how many times he has discussed the issue of private companies creating software to price fix your rent and that is why you've seen your rent hike up over the past 8 years. Has Joe Rogan ever talked to you about this? How many times has he told you about some random trans swimmer in a women's swim meet? Ask yourself what effects your life more and why Joe Rogan doesn't concentrate on the stuff that effects YOU? " Stuff like that. And say it in front of Rogan because that type of audience respects being frank and not fake politeness The only way to describe the right wing media machine is by discrediting the influencers and faces of that media. You have to expose how they are grifters. I'm all for the DNC spending money on creating a hate campaign against the likes of people like Rogan.
They could take away the issue by pushing back against the extreme position, for one. When Biden was running in 2020, I remember him being asked about the progressive push to "defund the police." He said, well that's not my position. I'm not defunding, and I'm not in favor of defunding. It took away a weapon to be used against him and made him sound like he wasn't a party puppet.
Why do you keep grouping trans rights alongside with trans women playing with biological women? Do you realize how dumb of a hill this is to die on? This is why the progressive brand is so damaged. Activists and lefties want purity politics. You can support trans folks without claiming they have the right to play with women. The two issues are completely independent of one another. You will never convince the American public that trans women have the right to play with women. You'll never win this debate.
Are you a bot? You completely ignored the part where no political apparatus is controlling every single individual sports league in this country. Individual organizations have their own rules. The right wing spams examples that you can count on your digits on your hands and feet spammed over and over and over and over again. The Democrats attacking trans people isn't going to solve the right wing propaganda machine. Address the things I type next time.
This is what Democrats need to do about trans women playing with biological women. The party needs to come out and say their against it and adopt it as a official policy. Anyone who disagrees should be kicked out of the party. The Democrats win when they can focus on economic populism. They'll lose every time when the debate becomes culture war issues as majority of Americans are culturally conservative
The reason why Republicans effectively used the trans argument is cuz the DNC nd Harris refused to take a stand against the issue. It doesn't matter that individual school districts make up their own policy. Democrats should've clearly said it that they don't support trans women plahing with women. It doesn't matter if they can make it happen or not. Perception is everything. The DNC needs to establish a official policy position of trans women shouldn't be playing with biological women. Focus group after focus group said the trans issues was one of the biggest factors in their vote. It was not economic issues that allowed trump to win
Nope. Any time the issue is brought up you bring up how it's a moral panic fake issue used to distract from oligarchs raiding you as consumers and worker and give examples of all prior historical fake moral panics to distract from real issues involving things like wealth inequality, labor rights etc. Buying into right wing framing that it's a problem with discussing is a win for them. We did it with immigration and the border. You relentlessly attack the fakeness of the issue. And unlike gaslighting Americans struggling to pay rent that the economy is good you aren't gaslighting the gas the majority of Americans when you say it's a fake issue because with this.... Very few Americans interact with the issue in real life. You actually spread a populist message and ou don't throw a oppressed group under the bus. Win win. And yes you are throwing trans people under the bus when you make national headlines about banning trans people from anything even sports. Because that seems into the American mind that trans people=bad. More press coverage about trying "to stop trans people from doing x" just means a harsher limelight on these poor ****ers who've been picked on enough for the past 8 years. Stop it dude. Have some basic perspective. It's easy to tell Americans it's a fake issue when so few Americans are effected by it. And yet you are okay with Harris campaign going around about how great the economy is when millions of Americans are struggling to pay their rent bill?
Another thing... The right is well known for moving goal posts after concessions on issues in regards to things like race inequality and lgbtq issues. They will move on to another avenue to ban trans people from once you concede about making legislation to ban trans women from sports.
Youre so effin clueless man. The majority of Americans have daughters. The GOP have been able to convince the vast majority of Americans that trans women are unfairly competing with their daughters. Once a perception is established you have to attack it head on. Its the same issue with the border. Vast majority of Americans have zero negative interactions with illegals yet they're brainwashed by republicans claiming migrants are committing vast crimes. Democrats need to come out in favor of building the wall and come out against trans women competing with women. In states where the republican nominee focused on economic issues the republican lost (Wisconsin). In states they focused on trans + border issues they won
Bro the vast majority of Americans with daughters have never encountered this issue. How many daughters in America went up to their parents concerned with this issue? .01% of daughters? When Republicans focus on economic issues they lose? No **** that's why they run on culture wars issues. That's why a actual strategy rather then give into right wing framing on priorities is to tackle head on the fact that the issue is fake and a distraction to you struggling to pay your rent payments and medical bills
It doesnt matter if they personally encountered the issue!!!!! Vast majority of Americans think their daughters are more talented than they really are and think trans women being able to play with their daughters is unfair. Why do you keep arguing with cold hard facts and data? This isn't me saying this but the trump campaign and republican in the senate saying this. They're telling you what worked for them and you keep arguing otherwise. Kamala ran over 300 million dollars of economic populism ads. She didn't run ads sponsored by Goldman Sachs. She ran ads attacking corporate greed and price gouging. She ran ads attacking corporations for hiking up prices. Youre a good person @fchowd0311 and I respect you and you have sincere beliefs and i respect you. I'm sorry but youre just wrong about how bigot and prejudice most Americans are.
