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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. DaDakota

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    Not really, the point was that what neither of us want or say, really matters to what the team will do.......what our desires to see, are irrelevent - so arguing about it is......waste of time I guess.

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  2. Houston77

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    Better not let @Clutch hear that you think his basketball discussion forum is a waste of time.
     
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  3. DaDakota

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    He knows, he is a smart man. We spend most of the discussion time on playback these days anyway.

    BTW- nice try slick....lol....

    DD
     
  4. Mathloom

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    If we're lucky, he's on a hero dose of mushrooms and realizing that his ego is overcompensating for not feeling heard as a child and thus he constantly holds the underdog or controversial or contrarian view in order to solicit attention.

    More likely: he's trying to distract from a conversation that's not going well for him.
     
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  5. harold bingo

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    Lol dude you have 126,000 posts on here
     
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  6. DaDakota

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    Wait, what? ****!!!!

    Multitasking - thy name is DD.....sigh

    Trade Jalen - elevate Cam....win ring.

    DD
     
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    Here is "wide open". Jalen shoots 26.7 % on those (2.5 wide open 3-point attempts per game). Of the guys who see 20+ minutes per game, only Jabari is worse. Even Amen is better on those.

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  8. Houston77

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    As I said before, I think “open” is far more relevant as he has taken much more of those and “wide open” likely includes a handful of end-of-quarter poor shots.

    Also, when it comes to how a shot impacts a defensive alignment, I think the ability to hit “open” shots is far more relevant, whereas the limited set of “wide open” shots are likely due, most often, to defensive breakdowns. In other words, if you can hit “open” shots at a good click, teams can’t slag off.
     
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    Shooting is more than just threes and volume. His fg% is a career low 39% because he can't make any 2 point jumper. Every time he shoots anything but a three it's automatic brick. So maybe his volume increasing has more to fact that he can't make anything else so he settles for terrible threes. So yes he has not improved as a shooter. I can make an argument he actually got worse and the numbers prove that.

    Also one thing he has definitely improved on is his finishing around the rim. So if he's making more layups why is his fg% down. Cuz his shooting sucks.
     
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  10. daywalker02

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    We will see another ASB or Post ASB outburst and things will go back as they were.

    With the exception that we know the Rockets extended him.

    At least he is consistent with inconsistent outings. We can predict that he would go on a run.

     
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    I mean when March April roll around and teams are trying to tank for Cooper Flagg Jalen will probably average 40.
     
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    How has he made major strides as a shooter? He shoots more but at a below average percentage? The average 3 PT% for SG is 37.4% Jalen can't average that for a season unless he drops to 5-6 attempts a game (and shoots better shots). And he is in love with the stepback three so that's not happening.

    I would give more threes to many players on our team and reduce Jalen's.

    Jalen can average 37% for a month but not for the season. I would be shocked if he is above 36% for the year. What has he done that makes you think he can average 37%? He has 8 games below 37% and four games above. I don't see why you think he can magically average 37%.
     
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    I've explained it over and over again in this thread, but here we go again.

    As I said in that post, Jalen is averaging .42 in open 3s and .37 in catch and shoot 3s. The primary thing holding him back is Ime is likely asking him to shoot more contested 3s -- he is shooting 2.2 contested 3s (defender within 2 - 4 feet) per game v. 1 last season (hitting them at .3). 2.2 contested 3s is exceptionally high -- Steph Curry averages 1.5 contested 3s a game. Running the numbers, if he only shot 1 contested 3 a game like he did last season, his average would be around .36 - .37. In other words, his overall 3 percentage, while up, is artificially deflated by the fact that Ime is obviously telling him to shoot way more because Bari and FVV are slumping.
     
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    things working out just fine ..according to plan ;););)

     
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    more 'reps' -permited by Ime, so long as there's still an allowance/allowed margin of error---comfortable lead.

    ...and it's because JG's staying here for quite a longer time
     
  16. jogo

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    We clearly don't see the same Jalen. I see someone who shoots the same as he has for the past three years. He has improved some currently but his 3pt% looks to me to be 33-34% this year. But you think his average would probably be closer to .37 if other players weren't slumping. Again it's not on Jalen. We should tip jar bet: For me - Jalen will shoot under 37% from 3 pt% for the year. For you - Jalen will shoot 37% or above for the year. You set the 37% so let's go with that.
     
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    I’m not going to jump to new goal posts with you. I replied to tell you that volume always affects shooting.

    If a person shoots more and keeps the same percentage, that means they had a better shooting performance. This is not an opinion, so I’m not sure why you’re digging your heels in further.

    You know how we know you’re being obtuse? Because you first denied saying it and now you’re defending it. You don’t have a point, you’re just arguing to argue.
     
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    I don’t know why Udoka is pushing this or allowing it.

    Honestly, between shooting 35% and only getting 4 FTA, the much bigger problem here is the FTA. Give me two more trips to the line rather than an extra 2% on 3’s.

    Stone has watched offensive geniuses in Morey, Harden, CP3. He knows this offense is amateur. He was previously losing power to Udoka but honestly if Udoka doesn’t improve offensively Stone will have him by the balls.
     
  19. SamCassell

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    Eating cheetos and posting at the same time doesn't count as multitasking.

    I feel bad for Cam, if he's the new DD darling. It hasn't worked well for any of those guys, from Spanoulis to KPJ.
     
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    OMG I have DD on ignore but I love Cam and seeing you say this made me sick to my stomach.
     
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