I know I'm horrible. I'm racist for wanting to deport and separate thousands of families because of paperwork. Supporting that is horrible. Agree.
I hate to do this, but I did some reading, and I agree that you are correct in the fact that a non-legal individual can per THE LAW can only be deported for three reasons. 1. violation of a student or work visa 2. Said person has engaged in a false marriage for the specific reason of staying in the US 3. said person has committed a felony. Those were taken directly from gov.org Let it be noted I was never disagreeing with you on deportation, nor have I ever commented on it. Although I have made statements that immigrants are valuable and need to be paid what they deserve. With that being said This country can only afford to take x amount of folks from ANYWHERE before we have issues with housing, school overpopulation, and infrastructure. sounds like the trend is 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants of a Latin origin eventually end up more right leaning. So other than the problems listed above Republicans should kind of support more immigration Now don't be an a$$ and figure out some way to insult me about this post as is your MO. .
Wait I said it's illegal for the federal government to deport illegal immigrants? When did I say that? I was replying to a person who suggested that it is the law to deport illegal immigrants if caught as in that is the federal minimum when convicted for trespassing the border. So no, a judge for example isn't breaking the law by not deporting someone who was convicted of criminal misdemeanor trespassing at the border. I'm just trying to understand how people refuse to see the concept of belving and entire group of people being harm to society as bigoted? How many 18-30 year old born and raised Americans do you think are fit enough to do construction work for 9 hours a day in 95 degree summer heat? Do you think it's enough to grow the housing market? Do you think it's enough to fortify and expand infrastructure? Ask a owner of a large scale farm who they prefer hiring migrants over American born citizens and it isn't just because they are cheap. The fitness level that is required for these back breaking labor intensive jobs means America isn't producing enough humans capable of doing these jobs to support the current economic system.
I will. And I'm starting to see where you are coming from when you say that Trump's deportation plan is racist.
Depends. Do you mean people out waving flags or the people who believe white people are better than others? That is a form of white supremacy, just not in your face like the flag wavers.
There is a lot of misinformation out there on this topic. First, most people Democrat and Republican both want border reform and vetting of potential immigrants. Second, until recently - most people wanted some form or way for long term illegal aliens in the USA to have a clear path to citizenship if they have been productive. Third - the border has been a political pissing contest between Biden and Trump the last 4+ years. Fourth - Trump lies, often - to the point that it isn't even always called out. He claims there are 20 million illegals in the USA, the truth is that it is probably 10 million to 12 million but no one knows for sure. Fifth - the USA is a massive country, with 350 million people. About 10 million are illegal - or about 3% of the population. Sounds like a lot, and is a lot compared to the USA - but for most of our history there have been lots of "illegals" and the definition of being illegal was different. Sixth - the cost of deporting all of the illegal aliens in the USA is over a trillion dollars and would take ten years by most independent estimates I have read. Seventh - the reality is that many illegals in the USA have children, spouses and other family members in the USA. If the military and the US government starts hunting down illegal aliens and removing them, there will be violence. It is an incredibly stupid idea to actually deport that many people. Eight - the level of economic shock from removing that many workers from the work force would be extreme - would cause inflation, some industries to go on life support. It would impact out economy at almost every level. Ninth - Trump knows there isn't 20 million illegals, but the bigger the number the more he can convince people it is a terrible situation. Tenth - contrary to what some extreme liberals say, there does need to be some degree of security at the border. It will never be a lock down situation like Trump says he wants, but there needs to be a way to monitor what is happening. Eleventh - you are correct, it isn't really feasible, but part of the problem is that Trump gets to throw out completely ridiculous 4th grade level ideas and they are not really questioned because the Democrats are more concerned about branding him a monster, than pointing out that he is ideas are really stupid and he will not deliver on them. Twelve - this is all for show. Trump and his billionaire oligarchs don't want cheap labor gone, it is all a distraction for the things they care about - removing government oversight on business and tax cuts. Thirteen - The Democrats will be in power at some point in the next two major elections. Whenever we swing too far - the swing back comes.
Oh I see. So if you’re not outwardly, you probably are inwardly. I’m glad there aren’t people out there that hate white people outwardly or inwardly.
I might be zooming out a bit far here but I think the concept of "border security" is a modern concept that we were all born and raised in where we can't fathom the fact that in most of human civilization, there was a natural migration process of humans with no "border checkpoints" usually as nomadic herds or migrating to find arable land. So I understand that we are so embedded into this concept of border security even though it hasn't been an aspect of humanity for like 99% of our existence. And I wouldn't call border security "humans advancing". I would see it as humans devolving. Do I believe it's a good idea to have measured to accurately track who enters and leaves the country? Sure. Does that require militarized checkpoints? Maybe if our neighbors directly to the south were an oppressed population we constantly bombed in mass then ya in that case border security would be important as we radicalized the entire population directly south of the border. But that isn't the case.
Man the fact you had to point out that he didn't appoint a self labeled white supremacist says everything about the MAGA movement. Like you had to mention that to be sure "He didn't appoint Nick Fuentes... Right? Let me just double check".
Who said that? You asked for a number. I am asking what number you want. Your reading comprehension sucks.
Neo-Nazis chant "Blood and Soil" Hitler says "All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning" Trump says immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country" What could it possibly mean?
First - I think you are very level headed on this topic but I just wanted to point something out. You asked if we can absorb 10 million illegal aliens in the USA. We have had between 8.5-12 million illegal aliens in the USA every year since 2000 - so almost 25 years. In the year 2000 - there were an estimated 8.5 million In the year 2005 - there were an estimated 10.5 million In the year 2010 - there were an estimated 11.5 million In the year 2015 - there were an estimated 11.5 million In the year 2020 - there were an estimated 10.5 million In the year 2023 - there were an estimated 11.1 million So - to answer your question, yes the USA can absorb 10 million illegal immigrants because we have for over a generation. What has changed - is that the number of encounters over the last 10 years at the border has increased, and there have been ebbs and flows on how many of those are allowed in, when the number of encounters increase - the % allowed in goes down. When it comes to immigration - I don't think there is a one size fits all answer, so perhaps we need to decrease the amount of immigrants here - but it isn't because we cannot absorb the number we have now,
Belive it or not, I agree with you to a point. And I'm not disputing anything you said above. I'm in the middle on this. These folks are here. The question all should be asking instead of fireing off insults at each other, should be what do we do now? And what will be the best outcome for the nation as a whole and I'm not qualified to speak for any specific group. I'm just a guy who goes to work, comes home to a stiff Titos, a loving wife and my dog. Oh and some good weed.
