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White Nationalism Watch - Trump 2.0

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Nov 8, 2024.

  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

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    Let me stop you there.

    The penalty for being in the US without proper paperwork is a civil offense. It isn't a criminal offense.


    The penalty for crossing the border illegally is a criminal misdemeanor trespassing charge.

    Now look through federate statutes and see if there is a federal minimum sentence for these charges being convictions. If there isn't a federal minimum that isn't "deport" then guess what....

    Judge's discretion. There is no law that says "the minimum sentence for this violation is deportation".

    A lot of judges aren't psychopaths and sees a person with no violent criminal history just looking for some work as not some evil person who needs to tossed out.


    So you are just making crap out of thin air. There is no federal minimum sentencing for these violations and misdemeanors.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Insincerity means "not believing in what you type" in this case.

    And what type of anarchism are you talking about? The colloquial one where anarchism just means "chaos" or the more scholarly academic ideology that refers to belving hierarchies are inherently corruptible and will always be.
     
  3. durvasa

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    It was called "United the Right". Seems entirely possible that some attendees who identify as right-wingers and not as white supremacists would be there because they opposed removal of the Robert E. Lee statue.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    I'm trying to find this unique population of people who take time out of their lives to attend a protest organized by a self labeled white nationalist group to defend the honor of a dude who committed treason to defend the status quo of African chattel slavery that aren't at the very least sympathetic to white nationalism.

    And just to be clear, no I haven't lived in a liberal bubble my entire life. So no this isn't a product of me being isolated from conservative leaning people.
     
  5. Tomstro

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    Are you actually trying to sound intelligent? That’s cute. You are all for chaos.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    And you are all for separating families through state violence that causes massive trauma because of not sufficient paperwork because of where they originate from.

    Hence you are racist. No need to be cute. No need to word play your replies.
     
  7. HTM

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    Oh, yes, Im sure you’d love to stop right there, gaslight and then stop because you cannot meaningfully respond to anything else in my post.
     
  8. Agent94

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    You're doubling down.

    Let me put this so a moron could understand.

    No workers on the farm are white.
    No workers on the farm are Americans.
    And you conclude "It’s not just white people that are Americans."

    You're conclusion, while true, does not follow the previous two statements. It's nonsense, just like most of your attempts at reasoning in this thread.
    Take the L
     
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  9. fchowd0311

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    I just did?

    I literally told you that your idea that there is some legal requirement for deportation after a trespassing conviction is a basic lack of understanding of our criminal justice system.
     
  10. Tomstro

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    Yeah I got it. I already cleared that up.
     
  11. jo mama

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    and if they stuck around for more than a few minutes then they knew exactly where they were and who they were among and chose to stay.

    again, it was a white supremacist rallly which was organized by white supremacist groups with white supremacist speakers who spouted white supremacist rhetoric.


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    Just people who consume right-wing media 24/7 and are convinced that they must stand up against liberal activists trying to attack their cultural symbols? I'm not defending Trump's words, which I don't think were constructive in that moment. But I'd rather not assume too much about people who attend a rally and what's motivating them.
     
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  13. Tomstro

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    Lol. Sure pal.

    just take the L you racist ****. It’s obvious you want families separated. You’re disgusting.
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    There isn't much assuming for people who take time out of their lives to attend a protest organized by self labeled white nationalists protesting a Confederate war general with their morbsrions and sympathies towards white nationalism.

    I'm wondering now. Would you do this for other groups like Muslims? Like if a Muslim started marching with a protest that was organized by self labeled isis supporters and were waiving isis flags in mass would you refrain from falling those people terrorist sympathizers?
     
  15. Tomstro

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    Stop with your muslim bullshit
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    At this point why even reply?

    Okay so you are against Trump's deportation plan? If you changed your tune on this, by all means I'll gladly allow you to call me racist if that convinces you that separating families through mass deportation is racist.
     
  17. Tomstro

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    But you want them to be separated. That’s what you want.
     
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    I boil it down to this. Not all Trump supporters are white supremacists. Nearly all white supremacists are Trump supporters. So whether Trump himself is one matters not. What matters is THEY believe he enables them.
     
  19. Tomstro

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    How many white supremacists do you think are in this country?
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    Hey man. I'm glad you changed your tune to believe that separating families with migrants through state force is morally wrong and racist.

    I'll take you calling me a racist with you now believing the deportation plan is racist as a fair trade because that's one less person that thinks Trump's deportation plan is good. What your thoughts are about me are trivial compared to having one less person supporting Trump's racist deportation plans.
     

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