ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Thunder 11/8/2024

Well, it looks on the surface that I blamed the coach but as you said there are more than 1 construction site.....

Udoka should go to a contending team, why should he stay here rebuilding, I never understood that.

I mean he is not Spoelstra or Daigneault but he is Top 12 type of coach just too stubborn.

The Rockets are just not for him long term.

The Rockets right now are a pet project of Tilman who has no clue about basketball and a lawyer named Stone.

 

This roster isn’t for any coach that could be fairly judged by whether they won or lost a game. But going over and over about how they’re coming up short because the shots aren’t open enough is just so tired.

 

He does not fit the roster and the roster does not fit him.....same thing with different words.

Nah man, if you followed, I have been saying since last season when they had their losing streaks.

Isn't a thing I came up because of one Thunder defeat.

People were asking for Sengün to be traded because they think Udoka does not fit him.....

The Coach goes first.

 

If you’re judging off wins and losses and made shots there isn’t a coach in the league that’s “for” this team. They’d be doing this same **** with any coach. The same way they did before. There are no shooters and inconsistency is a feature…not a bug.

 

Search for Harold Bingo.

He laid it out first, that one of Udoka or Sengün has to go at the beginning of the season.

(Both are extremely limited when things are not going well)

• That was not even me.
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• I just think he might not be all wrong.
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• Obviously this is not going to happen over 1 or 2 seasons but eventually.

 

wtf is a Harold bingo? I don’t care who said what when. I disagreed with what you’ve repeated over and over again about the offense being the fault of the coach. I can lead a horse to water but I can’t make him drink. I can scheme you an open shot but I can’t make you make it.

 

Udoka isn’t the problem.

Udoka didn’t stunt these guys growth for several years - Stone and Silas did that;

Udoka didn’t draft these guys;

Udoka didn’t make them both terrible at shooting 3’s and also wildly inconsistent;

Udoka hasn’t kept these individual players from not taking a step forward to all star and franchise player;

Udoka isn’t why Green looks like a stud half the time and a dud the other half;

At the end of the day - this team is WHO they show us they are … competitive but nothing more.

Udoka could be replaced with Red Auerbach and they would still lose by 30 to the Thunder.

 

100%

 

You are cleverer than this and you should have seen Harold Bingo's post.

It was not about how good Udoka is but the fit on this team with Sengün on Offense.

Dude has no system on Offense whatsoever, young players can only learn Defense from him but there is a point when there is nothing to learn.....what do they do?

It is an unpopular opinion because of what Udoka accomplished but that has to be said for the future.

Of course you can blame Silas and Stone but fact is Udoka is in charge of a lot of operations in here, given a lot of freedom.

 

They can’t make open shots!!!! Run them around in circles. Force the other team to wear roller skates. They’ll still pack the paint because no one on this team can keep them honest. It’s wild to me that people who watch hoops can’t see that.

 

The roster doesn’t fit any coach, because it was not drafted with a unified philosophy or with the players chosen because they fit well together.

Stone just drafted individual players and they were thrown together and told to figure it out.

They don’t fit well - they cannot shoot from the perimeter well - and most of them have no ability to put the ball on the floor and score.

Compare how the Thunder’s front office had a unified philosophy on how they wanted to build their team and what traits they wanted in the players they drafted - and the Rockets, who just targeted a mismash of players.

 

Shoulda played more Tate

 

Again I am just arguing on Harold Bingo's behalf, just calm down.

 

You should not even give Udoka that much freedom either, to dictate trades and everything.

You are right that it is not all Udoka's fault, the thing is in the NBA the Coach is sacked the earliest, I do not need to explain that to you.

That is just the business at hand. Teams are not San Antonio, and they won't be.

Presti is to be envied, he was also a San Antonio alumnus.

 

No offense is going to look good when the team cannot shoot from the perimeter- or put the on the floor and create space.

 

When we acknowledge a young team will always have growing pains, many folks like the growth but not accepting the pain part required to grow.

The loss sucks for sure, but we're definitely trending better than last year and even OKC and Boston went through this phase.

 

I still don’t know or care who Harold Bingo was his name-oh is. I’m talking about the rockets.

 

But any member of Clutchfans being head coach could not be worse than that.

 

I’m not debating whether Udoka will be blamed or not - I am simply saying you won’t find many coaches that will get more out of this very flawed group of players.