It's literally marked in the text for you. Saying "globalize the intifada" is endorsement of terrorist activity, and an attempt at persuasion of others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity. It also means supporting a terrorist organization (Hamas). Same with chanting "we are Hamas", waving Hamas and Hezbollah flags. Third post to try and explain that to you. The dumbass posts by @Xopher show that he can't grasp very basic concepts. You don't deport people because you don't like their opinions, you deport them because they support terrorism in a way that is against the law. Again, it appears to be a deliberate choice by the current administration, in line with their appointment of Iranian spies to key government positions, to not enforce that law. The fact that you two socialists are desperately trying to keep these people in the country, against the law, shows that you support their Jew hate.
You have a law background, yes? Do you really think chanting idiotic things could be prosecuted under the highlighted statute? Do you support using that statute to deport people who chant things you don't like?
It's not about "idiotic things" or "things I don't like". The things the tweeter and I listed are very specific. They are clearly endorsement of terrorist activities. If someone chants "Ceasefire in Gaza", I might not like it, but it wouldn't be reason to deport someone. If someone chants "We are Hamas" - GTFO.
So about this mandate talk? It probably should wait until the house is decided? I'm looking at the maps and it is still very very much up for grabs. Slight R lean but if the GOP wins it'll be by a very narrow margin. For the left, still some hope of a house win which would of course end all this talk of a 'mandate'
You know I respect you, I respect 99% of the people here but... You know that is as against Free Speech as possible right? Would you also then deport KKK members who do white nationalists rallies? They are just as much as terrorists. Also, people on visas are not technically 'aliens'. They are here legally and officially.
I am waiting for the horrific policies to affect someone I know here in Texas. Someone who voted for those policies. When they ask for thoughts and prayers I hope I can respond with kind words instead of saying "You got what you voted for." I am not sure I can though.
They are here legally though and officially and not all the people in those rally are on visas? Do you think it is good policy to throw people who come here to study out of the country because they say something you dislike? Like, yall keep talking about unity and all this stuff but...this seems like it's just going to piss more people off and will instead have citizens just start protesting in their place. What happens then?
People on a visa (like me) do not have the same free speech rights. I posted the law, you can read it. You cannot deport an American KKK member. Also, it is doubtful whether "just attending a rally" (whether pro Hamas or pro KKK) is enough. I don't know if the KKK is designated as a terrorist organization. I know Hamas is. If KKK were designated as a terrorist organization and someone like me on a visa were to chant "I support the KKK because I want to see people of colour murdered" or a variation of that, then hell yes, cancel my visa and deport me.
Again, it is not about "saying something I dislike". If someone at a rally says "Israel is evil", I would fundamentally disagree, but that alone is not enough to constitute support for terrorism. This is specifically about people on visa who support terrorism. Saying "we are Hamas, we are Hezbollah", waving their flags or shouting "globalize the intifada" is open support for terrorism. I hope you agree on that.
Yea, obviously, being in the United States as a non-citizen is a privilege and if you show yourself to support radical and extremist ideologies I don't think you should be allowed to maintain that privilege.
Well yall can go for it. Seems like it's going to be something massively unpopular and if it happens I 100% guarantee you will see nation wide college protests. Just seems to me it will cause more division and you'll cede the whole 'Free speech' argument completely. I don't think people here should have any government punishment no matter what is said outside of death threats. I don't think being pro-hamas is a direct death threat, it's silly, sure, but the KKK having a rally is just as much of a death threat in that case.
Let's just say we see things differently. I started out looking for a penny to get a newspaper to get a job and capitalism has allowed me to become successful. Hopefully your daughter will one day have a similar story of success. You seem like a good man.
Yeah sure it's open support for terrorism but its still free speech. Just seems like a little too much. So a large group of college students chants "We are Hamas!" how are you determining which ones chanted it? Are you going to just deport them for even associating? Maybe the visa students didn't chanted and just marched along? Like I said, seems like a terrible idea to deport legal immigrants and basically will play into every fear the democrats have of Trump and gives the Democrats something to motivate their base for 2026 and I know for sure you're going to rile up the protest eager Dems.
I looked one up. https://www.state.gov/terrorist-designations-of-nordic-resistance-movement-and-three-leaders-2/ Based on this, if I, on a visa, were to chant "Long live the Nordic Resistance Movement", based on that law, I should be deported. And, not that my opinion matters, because that's the law, but yes, if I were to support that terrorist organization, I SHOULD be deported. Same applies to Hamas and Hezbollah. Supporting them is not just "silly", and I am disappointed you would downplay it like that.
