Yes, we need more immigration. US population is aging & birth rate is plummeting - the only thing that has kept the US population from shrinking over the last few years has been immigrants. Immigration has been the driving force of US economic growth since it was founded. Today is no different. You're welcome for this bit of knowledge
The MAGA movement is against immigration in all its forms (other than for Elon Musk (illegal) Melania Trump (illegal) and various others). However, that's kind of a pointless distinction when we talk about the impact in total we have needed to keep our population/economy growing as the boomer generation ages out. The point is, without immigration (BOTH the legal immigration system, which is basically borken and not letting in enough people, and undocumented workers) - the population would be shrinking as would the economic pie. That's just a basic truth (this is true of other large deveoped economies as well) I don't see Trump saying "deport all the illegals, and then set up a newer bigger system for more legal immigrants" - it's the opposite. They're pure restrictionists. That way lies ruin.
Yeah, folks, if you can remove politics for a moment -- seriously, just set down your blue or red hat -- the worldwide data on human populations is pretty striking and worth paying attention to. For most of my life, there was stress about total population, feeding everybody, etc, etc. Well, the trends are so striking now, in the other direction, that many many parts of human society are going to face new challenges. Our economies depend on having a certain population, and they are largely built on growth, including more and more people to build and buy houses, to consume goods, to pay taxes, etc. A few parts of economies may be built to work well in stasis, but very few. Now, we have to ask societies and economies to function with shrinking populations. That's what's already happening and will become more and more obvious. Politics aside: countries that work out a method to welcome some immigration are going to have an easier time than countries that get more insular and just sit with their own dwindling populations with declining birth rates. Don't take it from me. Let's hear from Nicholas Eberstadt writing for Foreign Affairs: "Although few yet see it coming, humans are about to enter a new era of history. Call it “the age of depopulation.” For the first time since the Black Death in the 1300s, the planetary population will decline. But whereas the last implosion was caused by a deadly disease borne by fleas, the coming one will be entirely due to choices made by people. With birthrates plummeting, more and more societies are heading into an era of pervasive and indefinite depopulation, one that will eventually encompass the whole planet. What lies ahead is a world made up of shrinking and aging societies. Net mortality—when a society experiences more deaths than births—will likewise become the new norm. Driven by an unrelenting collapse in fertility, family structures and living arrangements heretofore imagined only in science fiction novels will become commonplace, unremarkable features of everyday life." There's many ways to see a silver lining in all of this, if you love the Earth's biosphere, for example. But for your average human and their quality of life, it's kinda nutty in a bad way.
I'm all for immigration. Legal immigration. Need to be vetting who's coming into this country. If you're not for legal immigration then why not just do away with the border patrol completely and just let anyone who wants to come here enter the country (and wherever they want)? Who cares if it winds up being millions and millions of undocumented people. If you're opposed to this (and you should be) then you'd be for legal immigration. The question then becomes how many people do you want to allow into the country each year?
Cool! Me too. I hope we can resurrect something similar to or even the same bipartisan immigration bill that got shut down for political goofy season. Maybe after the election, it can return. One can hope.
IMO we all want this to be fixed, it's been broken forever, and I really thought the Bi Partisan bill was the ticket until it wasnt.....its to important to say IT~S BROKEN and only I can fix it. I am tired of EO`s that end up getting over turned. If Harris wins and she can get a Bi Partisan bill passed that will be huge for EVERYONE, Red, Blue and Purple. Everyone should walk away from the table feeling like they didn't get everything they wanted, which is a great sign of negotiating........It should have teeth, but it should also have Empathy. We need to invest in technology and bodies at the border to find a quicker way to identify who is good and who isn't and then a process to streamline the wait time, waiting years for a court date is just setting us up for failure I know trump just says things to rile up his base, but the Logistical nightmare of deporting millions (in trump terms that's about 1500) not to mention the cost
Ok so Trump has been running for President for 9 years now and he has never once seriously expressed any enthusiasm for legal immigration or put forth any plan on how to fill the gap that the undocumented system fills. Instead he has surrounded himself with straight up white nationalists who talk nonsense about the Great Replacement theory. What kind of legal immigration plan are you for? The Republican backed border deal that Trump torpedod out of spite had some fixes to the legal immigration system. How is anyone planning to replace the multi billion dollar hole they are putting in the economy and the federal budget? Are the Deportation camps going to double as importation camps? I think it's a Democratic party term that Obama or Biden used to use like "strong fence with a wide gate" or something like that - that's basically what you're describing
I think we can agree the system is broken. Deporting millions of people isn't the answer either. Like I said, I'm all for immigration, as long as it's done legally. This issue isn't just a "talking point" either. It's a serious issue and needs to be fixed. ASAP.
Sir Mick Jagger urges Americans to vote for Kamala Harris https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowb...sidential-election-final-day-campaigning.html
I am sorry you actually thought that i was saying Trump would bulldoze the highways lol. Come on. You know how the system works. And yes, millions of American citizens would be deported. What you do is you twist what someone says so that you can win your argument.
It’s good to recognize that the Boomers are aging out and I’m glad that @B-Bob can see that his grandchildren’s (the boomers) population numbers will need to be replaced.
From the Economist, ' America’s glorious economy should help Kamala Harris Voters are starting to notice the good news just in time for the election, as well as to contrast Trumponomic against Bideomics Trump admin lost 2 million jobs in 4 years Bidenomics gained > 16 million jobs the US was supposed to be in recession. instead, the economic pie has grown every quarter since Biden as taken office, leading to an inflation-adjusted annualized growth of 2.9 %, way above its growth rate of 2.3% when Trump was fired. Inflation---caused by global supply chain bottlenecks / Russian invasion of Ukraine---has dropped from ~ 9% to just below 3%
You do realize I’m just asking for 4 more years of what he’s already proven. That’s reality. Not snake oil.
