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[Predictions 2024] 5 day home stretch

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Space Ghost, Nov 1, 2024.

  1. ElPigto

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    This is the link he posted in another thread.

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...l-election-michigan-china-benson/75936701007/

    I told him it's an isolated incident and not proof that wide spread mass voter fraud is happening. The Trump campaign is just gearing up in case they lose the election.
     
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  2. Agent94

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    Explain to me how this targeted fraud happens?
    We went through this last time. If it's close there will be a manual recount where they will verify there is a handful of fraud cases that make zero difference.
     
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  3. Agent94

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    @ElPigto posted the link.

    Your example proves my point. It's not massive fraud and the guy got caught and is facing jail time. You "did your own research". :rolleyes:
     
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  4. adoo

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    if only you would elaborate w some specifics?
     
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    It does have to be significant, and it isn't.
     
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  6. VooDooPope

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    Blue wave as American Women turn out in droves to defeat the misogynist, pedo, rapist in chief.
     
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    Trump wins Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina
    Harris wins Wisconsin and Michigan

    That leaves it at 268-251 Trump with Pennsylvania deciding the election

    Trump wins Pennsylvania he wins 287-251
    Harris wins Pennsylvania she wins 270-268

    I hate Trump but sure hope he wins for the sake of the economy and world wide stability

    I guess my biggest prediction is that we won't know the winner tomorrow, or Wednesday, or Thursday
     
  9. Nook

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    That isn't how this all works.

    There are potentially 100,000,000's of voters in the USA - there are going to be some ballots that are cast by people that are either not eligible to vote or that commit fraud by using the ballot of someone else (usually a parent or spouse). This happens every single election. This also happens for both Presidential candidates.

    As an example - Ohio, they spent a lot of time and resources to look into voter fraud over the last few years. They went through 6 million ballots - went over the rolls of eligible voters. Out of 6 million ballots, they found 75 that were illegally cast.

    In 2020 - the voter rolls and ballots of the 6 swing states were scrutinized. Out of 25,000,000 ballots.... they found around 400 ballots that were questionable. There was ZERO indication of any coordinated voter fraud. None - the ballots at issue were people that filled out their spouses ballots and mailed them in - or filled out a mail in ballot for someone like a parent recently deceased.

    There is ZERO proof of any coordinated effort - by either party - to fraudulently vote in US Presidential elections. ZERO - NONE - with multiple states and multiple groups investigating it. What there is however - is false and misleading social media posts on the topic.

    The Chinese student you are discussing - he was caught by the voting system - it did what it is supposed to do, and when you have hundreds of millions of votes, there will be a small number of fraudulent votes cast, incomplete ballots etc.... and not only is the number so small, who those ballots are cast for is close to evenly split.

    This is nothing more than an effort by Trump to have a basis to contest a close election - and to use any means at his disposal to remain in power. He even said - again that he shouldn't have left the White House last time.
     
  10. Nook

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    Nevada, Georgia, North Carolina, Wisconsin and Michigan all are within 1% of each other.... which is in the margin for error.

    Even Arizona - it is only 1.9% - within the margin for error too.

    My gut is that Arizona and Michigan are true to their political roots and AZ goes Trump and Michigan goes Harris...... but the rest really are a toss up. Wisconsin is helter skelter, and you would think that Georgia would go Trump but turnout is so important there that it isn't certain.

    I still think the electoral college may not be as close as some think - because if the polls are even 2% off - all of those states: NV. AZ, GA, NC, WI, MICH and PENN would likely go to the candidate under represented by 2% in the polls.
     
  11. Xopher

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    Check this out.
     
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  12. DonnyMost

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    Oh my God what happened to beau? Please tell me he's OK.
     
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    Low T-count
     
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  14. Xopher

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    Beau basically retired. His wife took over.
     
  15. Invisible Fan

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    I'm guessing this new Beau has only four columns.
     
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  16. JuanValdez

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    The irony to me of these predictions is that it's more about predicting the skew of polling companies' polls than it is about the election itself. Have they corrected for their past skews? Did they overcorrect? I don't know enough about that industry to have an opinion. So, I'll just wait for the results to be announced.
     
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  17. Rocket River

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    Polling at this point IMO is useless
    Beyond simple errors. . . . people just lie

    Rocket River
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    All models are wrong but some are useful. Without polling, we wouldn't even know who the battleground states are. But no, they don't tell the future.
     
  19. astros123

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    I have never owed anyone any money? In my wager with @Astrodome we agreed we would finalize the bet after the DNC convention where Biden would be confirmed as the agreement. I never wavered or tried canceling my wager. I'm not a deadbeat in any shape or form.
     
  20. astros123

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    In what universe is trump good for the economy. What plans does he have for the economy? A universal tariff of 20%? His plan on removing health insurance for 35 million folks he's promising? His plan on reversing the CHIPs act which has led to hundreds of billions of semiconductor manufacturing? Cutting social security and Medicare? Gutting union protections at the NLRB?

    In what universe is trump good for the economy? How are Americans so utterly clueless about trumps plan. Americans are so naive and utterly clueless
     
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