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The 2024 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    I’ve been to a Trump rally, it’s definitely more diverse than Kamallah’s. This is a complete reversal of things used to be. In past elections when I went to the rallies, the majority of folks were my color.
     
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    I’m so glad that you went to a rally and saw so much diversity lol. The data and facts I just posted are 100% true. Democrats will win the black, Asian, Jewish, Hispanic, female, college educated, and young people more than Republicans. Trump will lose every single one of those. I’m glad you saw some diversity though.

    Trump will win the kkk vote, Nazi vote, white male vote, non college degree white vote (both genders), (no way prove this one but he will win the never read a single book their entire lives vote but believe anything everything I read online vote)
     
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  3. Scarface281

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    Yeah the data is clear, this is the most diverse Republican voting bloc in decades. Trump is going to get 20% of the Black vote, 45%+ for Latino and Asian, and do much better with the union voters. Meanwhile the data shows the Democrat party is getting whiter and more war hungry.
     
  4. peleincubus

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    Hispanic 37% for Trump

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/st...harris-rebounds-with-latino-voters-poll-shows

    This shows the same for Asian voters

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4946826-vice-president-harris-asian-american-voters/amp/

    neither shows 45%+ both inline with what they have generally been for decades for presedential elections.
     
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  5. peleincubus

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    Also Trump WILL NOT get 20% of the black vote. Reading what I just read his polling numbers have decreased with black males from 27% to 20% since August and I damn well know he is not getting 20% from black females. So every single one of the numbers you just stated is off. Again I’m glad you saw the diversity at your white people rally. But the republicans inability to appeal to others besides white people is why they will have won one single popular vote since the 1980’s. Less Americans overall agree with the party.
     
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  6. Scarface281

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    You'll see. Many polls say different things but taken as an aggregate, Trump is polling far better with these groups and Kamala is polling the worst a Democrat ever has.

    Looking at this article from newsweek shows Trump generally in the 40-47% range on polling for Latinos: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-polling-hispanics-four-days-before-election-1978899

    This article talks about the massive shrinkage in Latino, Black, and Asian support in California, which I think we can scale to the rest of the US: https://vcresearch.berkeley.edu/new...-margin-california-says-new-berkeley-igs-poll


    Here's an article that talks about the 20%+ Black vote: https://nypost.com/2024/10/31/us-ne...ng-state-thanks-to-strong-black-support-polls

    The important thing to remember here is this huge erosion of support is going to hurt Kamala critically in a few states, which is why the election will be called relatively early.
     
  7. basso

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    how many people got blown to bits in the first Trump admin vs the current Admin?
     
  8. Astrodome

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    Both candidates are going hard at the end here. I am sure it will be a relief when this is over. I am impressed with the energy of both of them.
     
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    Trump showing women how to perform this sex act correctly?



    ETA NSFW
     
  10. jo mama

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    good thing cardi b isnt running for president...but if you think that is embarrassing then what did you think of trump ranting about his microphone for 4 minutes last night? funny that he claimed he doesnt read teleprompters when he cant get through a speech without one.



    or what did you think of trump refusing to take questions and just weirdly dancing onstage for 40 minutes last month?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/14/trump-music-sways-town-hall/
    Trump sways and bops to music for 39 minutes in bizarre town hall episode

    or what did you think about trump not being able to grab the handle of his garbage truck this week? was he drunk? depth perception off? after-effects of a stroke? this is your masculine alpha male hero? LOL!

     
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    Dan Pfeiffer/Message Box:

    If Kamala Harris Wins, Here are Three Reasons Why

    The polls can't tell us who is going to win, but there are other measures to look at

    The polls are close to meaningless at this point. And I say that as someone who obsesses over the polls, hosts a podcast about polling, and will almost certainly write about the last batch of New York Times/Siena polls expected in the next few days. To make a case for either candidate as being the slight favorite depends on factors other than the polling.

    Of course, Trump could win. He could outperform his polls as he did in 2016 and 2020. No one would be shocked. All of the major electoral models rate Trump as a slight favorite. I wrote last week about the case for optimism regarding Harris’s chances of winning. I still believe she is the slight favorite in this incredibly close race.

    I know spouting optimism is very off-brand for me, but there is enough doom and panic happening among Democrats. Therefore, here are a few more reasons to hope:

    1. Dems Are More Enthusiastic
    The conventional wisdom is that Donald Trump is a cult leader for whom his supporters will crawl across broken glass to vote. That narrative ignores the reality that Democrats are much more enthusiastic about Harris than Republicans are about Trump. According to new data from Gallup, Democrats have a 10-point advantage on enthusiasm.
     
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    They refuse to discuss how far Trump has fallen both mentally and physically. He's unfit to serve, but yeah, let's talk about other stuff and just pretend Trump didn't say that, didn't do that, or didn't mean that. LOL Ignorance is bliss.
     
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    As others have noted, I think the percentages you state are too high, but I agree the gains in those areas are real … in this election cycle. And the Democratic Party should take notice. I personally think many of those gains would not occur if Dems were running a generic white male. In other words, the gains in those areas are less about Donald and more about the Dems going with Kamala.

    To be clear, here, I’m not saying people are being racist or misogynistic in the “traditional sense”. I think (1) people are used to what they are used to, and (2) most people don’t move from what they’re used to unless the option being presented is super compelling, which Kamala has failed to do with this cohort. (I get that this can also fall within the definition of racist or misogynistic, but that’s not the point I’m trying to convey, which is more about baseline bias/preference).

    Counter balancing this shift is increased support for Kamala by women, whether due to Dobbs or the desire for a female/black/south asian female president, or both. Your point about whiter is inaccurate I think. For this election cycle, Dems are more women (which I suppose includes gains with white women).

    The war hungry part is rather meritless, unless you can point to some policy in the Kamala campaign or action taken by her in the last 4 years that point toward this. Both Liz Cheney and Kamala Harris have explicitly said they share only one connection, the concern about Trump being a threat to democracy, and that they otherwise have polar opposite policy views. Its is fun for Trump/MAGA to claim Kamala is all of a sudden a war hawk, but it is equally ridiculous to anyone who engages in any critical thought.
     
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    If you grew up here in south Texas like I have and you know the Hispanic community, it’s shocking that Republicans don’t routinely win 80% of the Hispanic vote. The only reason they do not is the racism. Almost all of the policy issues of the classic GOP align with many of the Catholic conservative norms.

    The fact that the uneducated white voter can only be relied upon to get off the couch for racism and fear of the “other” is a damning indignation on where this country is which is still racist as fck even after everything we’ve been through in our history.
     
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    He's still obsessed with Arnold Palmer?
     
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