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Oakland In-N-Out Burger closes due to crime

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 21, 2024.

  1. ROXRAN

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    Auto burglaries were 97% higher in 2023 than the previous five years In Oakland - I think it was an honest mistake to close all these businesses during Covid. I really don't think it really helped in hindsight, and it hurt more than it helped if it did help at all.- At some point, it becomes irreparable- The city that is, I don't think it can get better

    Crime is out of control and anyone that says otherwise is ignoring the facts

    as bad as San Francisco is, it's actually better- San Jose is certainly a better option- The city is almost like the equivalent of Kmart - just obsolete- city of 420,000 - Why would anyone want to live there? There are better options. Every state has one of those embarrassing cities. It's true. even in Tennessee. The equivalent would probably be Memphis and in Texas. I'm sure it would be maybe Dallas lol but You know honestly I really do feel bad because I'm sure there's good people that live there and they're trapped, especially if they're small business owners
     
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    Weird - why is crime DROPPING so much across the nation, but you guys think it's INCREASING?

    It's really fascinating...almost like reality isn't that important to ya guys.
     
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    New data shows violent crime dropping sharply in major U.S. cities
    https://www.axios.com/2024/08/12/violent-crime-harris-trump-election
     
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    there is some evidence that violent crime rates in certain cities have been dropping, but there is evidence of rising crime rates in "non-violent" categories.

    See for example https://counciloncj.org/crime-trends-in-u-s-cities-mid-year-2024-update/

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    This study updates and supplements previous U.S. crime trends reports by the Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ) with additional data through June 2024. It examines monthly crime rates for 12 violent, property, and drug offenses in 39 American cities that have consistently reported monthly data over the past six years. The 39 cities are not necessarily representative of all jurisdictions in the United States. Not all cities reported data for each offense (see appendix for which cities reported which offenses); trends in offenses with fewer reporting cities should be viewed with caution. In addition, the data collected for this report are subject to revision by local jurisdictions.

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    Reports of residential burglaries (-14%), nonresidential burglaries (-10%), larcenies (-6%), and drug offenses (-2%) all decreased in the first half of 2024 compared to the first half of 2023. But rates of reported shoplifting, a crime that has received extensive attention from the media and policymakers, increased by 24% over the same period.

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    Overall, most violent crimes are at or below levels seen in 2019, the year prior to the onset of the COVID pandemic and racial justice protests of 2020. There were 2% fewer homicides during the first half of 2024 than during the first half of 2019 and 15% fewer robberies. Aggravated assaults and domestic violence incidents also are below levels seen five years ago. Gun assaults were 1% higher during the first half of 2024 than during the first half of 2019, and carjacking, a crime that is relatively uncommon but began to spike shortly after the onset of the pandemic, was 68% higher.

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    Property crime trends have been mixed over the last five years. There were fewer residential burglaries and larcenies but more nonresidential burglaries in the first half of 2024 than during the same period five years earlier. Motor vehicle thefts more than doubled during the timeframe, while shoplifting is 10% higher. Drug offenses remain below 2019 levels.

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    It is encouraging that rates of violent and property crime are trending in the right direction and are generally below historic peaks seen in the early 1990s, but many cities are still experiencing disturbingly high levels of homicide and motor vehicle theft. To achieve long-term reductions, local, state, and federal governments, along with communities and industries, must adopt evidence-based crime prevention efforts. Additionally, improvements to the nation’s crime data infrastructure are essential to better equip policymakers with timely, accurate, and usable data needed to effectively address community violence and other crime.


     
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    There is a bigger theft happening in America.
    https://www.opportunityinstitute.or...rprise you to,from workers across the country.
     
  7. ROXRAN

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    Violent crime and other felonies fell in 2023 in America’s biggest cities. They increased in Oakland.

    Robberies grew 38% last year in Oakland, according to police data. Burglaries increased 23%. Motor vehicle theft jumped 44%. Roughly one of every 30 Oakland residents had a car stolen last year, according to a San Francisco Chronicle analysis.

    let that sink in for a moment 1 out of every 30 people in Oakland had a car stolen last year ..ouch
     
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    When compared to 2019 - the last year of Trump - both shoplifting and property crimes are down as well. Crime is down overall under Biden. Which contradicts the claim that when Trump was prez, there was less crime. Reality is there was more crime across the board.
     
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    Oakland isn't THAT bad but is getting close. The piedmont hills side of Oakland around the city of Piedmont save it from being a complete dump. Compare that to San Bernardino, which is literally the worst city California has to offer and feels almost completely emptied out. Even if there is a big box shopping center with one prosperous store, 60% of the center will be empty and/or boarded up. It is essentially a lawless city, and I'm not even kidding. You can do anything in SB, it's the wild west. I've never spent time in a worst city. Crazy how it was an All American City and home of the first McDonalds (now a museum in one of the many SB hoods), just 40-50 years ago
     
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    #255 Salvy, Oct 30, 2024
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    He should have minded
    Why go jogging in Oakland ? Thugs will rob you
     
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    Bro was convinced by a wokie in the D&D that it would be fine and safe....
     
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    But the weather was good for the joggers

    as well as the thugs
     
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    I'm surprised woke ran city news don't have a special forecast for the criminals, like....... "Its going to be a bright and sunny day, make sure to cover your face well especially in high end camera equipment theft" or "we have some light to medium showers so if you are lucking to mug someone don't forget to bring an umbrella and some gloves so your pistol doesn't slip out while you are claiming tren de aragua, that be embarrassing" ....
     
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    These thugs must be in great shape to run after joggers
    Somebody give them a track scholarship
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