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The 2024 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    Talk like this became less fun after Hilary but is it all boiling down to Penn or is the rest of the blue wall at stake?
     
  2. juicystream

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    It is all at stake. Trump could very well win in an electoral college landslide.
     
  3. No Worries

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    People are saying that Trump might not even make it to Election Day.

     
  4. Commodore

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  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Yes this is very possible. The lasted polls put every battleground state as very close.

    It is also possible Harris wins in an electoral
    Landslide.
     
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  6. Kemahkeith

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    Does anyone on here think we will know who the new President will be, before we go to bed next Tuesday night?
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    I’m pretty certain we won’t know the winner for several days and possibly weeks. There are going to be recounts and legal challenges.
     
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  8. Kemahkeith

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    God, I remember the "Hanging Chad" election.
    I suspect this will be much worse.
     
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    “Total lovefest at the PA townhall! Everyone was so excited they were fainting so @realDonaldTrump turned to music,” campaign spokesman Steven Cheung wrote on X. “Nobody wanted to leave and wanted to hear more songs from the famous DJT Spotify playlist!”
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    2020 was much worse and this election could look a lot like 2020.

    Given that polls are already incredibly close and one side has been saying for year they won’t accept an election unless they win it’s going to be rough.
     
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  11. No Worries

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    Musk does not need SS or Medicare, so do not be surprised when those programs get **** canned. Sacrifices must be made by the masses ... for the greater good ... of the Oligarchs who are frankly damn tired of paying any and all taxes.


    [MarketWatch] Elon Musk predicts ‘hardship,’ economic turmoil and a stock market crash if Trump wins.
    Musk’s shocking austerity message is an unusual one to send voters a week before what is likely to be a close election

    The word “bombshell” has been so grossly overused for so long that it is guaranteed to make anyone’s eyes roll. But what other word fits?

    With just a week until the presidential election, Donald Trump’s close ally and major economic adviser Elon Musk is warning supporters to expect economic chaos, a crashing stock market and financial “hardship” — albeit only “temporary” — if Trump wins.

    It sounds so extreme that Trump fans must either wonder why he had been so foolish as to say the silent part out loud, or maybe hope that the whole story is made up — “fake news.”

    But it’s very real.

    Billionaire Musk, Trump’s would-be budget-cutting and government-efficiency czar, also says there will be “no special cases” and “no exceptions” when he starts slashing federal spending after Trump takes office.

    And he predicts he will need “a lot of security” personally because of the likely reaction to his policy moves.

    Speaking on a “telephone town hall” with supporters Tuesday, Musk promised deep federal budget cuts, austerity and economic pain ahead in a new Trump administration.

    “We have to reduce spending to live within our means,” Musk said. “That necessarily involves some temporary hardship but it will ensure long-term prosperity.”


    Describing government spending as “a room full of targets,” Musk said: “Like, you can’t miss. Fire in any direction and you’re going to hit a target.”

    He said, “I think once the election takes place we’ll immediately begin looking at where to take the most immediate action.”

     
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  12. SamFisher

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    Musk's world class bungling stories going to start showing up in POLITICO in about a week
     
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    It shouldn't surprise me once Dubya got re-elected, but here we go again...
     
  14. juicystream

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    I think we will. I'm actually hoping for a legal quagmire though. A rogue elector to turn the election on its head and cause a Constitutional crisis.
     
  15. juicystream

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    Her path is a lot narrower. The biggest fear is Trump outperformed the polls in 2016 & 2020. We've reached a point he would win the popular vote if that holds true again. We're basically hoping that pollsters figured out how to fix the Trump variance.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    "Orwellian" are the likes of libs of tiktok/chaya rachik - just a horrendous, hateful cancer of a person who quite literally became famous by picking out random people on social media and signing them up for "Two Minutes Hate " and ruining their lives , for a financial gain, also know one of Putins Piss Babies in Chief & favored propaganda spreaders

    **** Chaya Rachik and any person who follows her or quotes her. George Orwell could never dream of such a horrid creation.
     
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    So much for the party of "unity"

    Conservative voters are nazis, racists, and now...garbage.
     
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    Neither is a party of unity.

    Conservative voters aren't usually Nazis, racists, or garbage, but they also aren't Trump supporters.
     
  19. Scarface281

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    Yeah because PA and GA will be announced. When PA goes to Trump, Kamala basically has no shot because the likelihood of her losing PA but winning WI is slim. Not to mention Nevada has been slipping hard from the Dems.
     
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  20. Nook

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    It is possible we will - and the reason is that if the polls are even 2% off in the popular vote, then one of the candidates will sweep the toss up states and get the EC votes.

    This goes for either candidate: So for example. Let's say that Harris does +2 than the popular polls. She ends up winning up 3.5% ..... that is what they call the statistical tipping point. At that point she likely wins Georgia, Carolina, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada and Pennsylvania and a good shot at AZ as well. That would be well over 300 EC votes.

    For Trump - if he is +2, he wins the popular vote - and likely eeks out Michigan, Wisconsin and wins Pennsylvania, Georgia and the Sun Belt states and gets an EC vote of like 320 votes.

    Regardless of what happens - if Trump loses, I do not expect him to accept the outcome. It is also possible that Harris will not either at this point. Unfortunately, the precedent has been set based on Trump and the 2020 election outcome.

    This is a toss up election to me - I see reasons to believe that both will win.
     

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