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The “give me Harden over FVV” takes are embarrassing

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JW86, Oct 24, 2024 at 5:07 AM.

  1. Joe Rocket

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    What I think is that you didnt watch the games and you just checked stats and you have no idea what youre talking about.
     
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    I haven't watched as much as you have but I looked 5 minutes at the Phoenix game where he had contested layups that he would have made when he was in his Prime and he did not lol....

    Don't take it personal, not everybody loves Harden.

     
  3. Joe Rocket

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    I didn't say **** about loving Harden or taking it personal (I said he was better than FVV). I correctly assessed by what you said that you don't actually watch the games and I was right. Case closed
     
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    Don't let the door hit you on the way out then.


     
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    Harden haters are not watching our games with fvv controlling the offense.

    Not being able to score in 9 mins is wild.
     
  6. daywalker02

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    If Harden was here and doing good work, then you have a point for whoever hates on him.

    The thing is you are arguing for a ghost of the past.

    FVV was a transitional guy that is here for 2-3 years ..... and nothing more and nothing less.

    Harden's trade gave us all those draft picks, he already has done something.

    The Clippers and Rockets are in direct contention for a Play-In or Playoff spot....another reason there won't be some sort of FVV for Harden swap.



     
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    I never closed the book on Harden though, if he wants to take a 1 or 2 year contract when this is over with the Clippers.

    Fine be it that way but the contract should be reasonable and this is a discussion for the offseason.
     
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    Reminder how much of a sorry ass thirsty loser groupie bum Harden is. Associating with only the best of course. Few months before Durk put out the murder for hire hit. Glad he got to hear and see the ‘mastermind’ work his craft in person.

     
  9. Dobbizzle

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    You do realise you lost that exchange, right? He made you look like the fraud that you are, with ease.
     
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    FVV was definitely brought here to instill professionalism, mentor, and change the defensive mindset. However, there were several reports citing Harden’s interest in rejoining the Rockets and Houston opting to go a different direction. With that said, the criticism on FVV some unwarranted is his fit with this offense. I think the majority of the criticisms is his fit in terms of the faster downhill play of Amen and Cam etc. to Fred’s credit he has thrown more outlet passes and tried to run out on breaks. Fred is still important to this team as a vet and ex champ no doubt.
     
  11. Stephen_A

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    Bigger fraud than Bobby the great fraud? @Bobbythegreat
     
  12. Air Canada

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    Massive delusional idiocy.... You replace Harden with White and the Clippers aren't just 0-2 right now ... They get absolutely destroyed both games.... Clown post.
     
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  13. Dobbizzle

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    With how many weird alt/gimmick posters there are it wouldn't surprise me if they're the same person or if daywalker is a chatbot Bobby set up in all honesty.
     
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  14. Stephen_A

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    :D I got no beef with him. But know what u mean. My foes are Bobby the fraud, The guy that wants to tea bag Rudy T, and top Sengun only fan Around the World lmao. Same person? Hmmm ;)
     
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  15. Stephen_A

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    Yeah i definitely think Harden would open up these players’ games. According to reports Udioka and Rockets opted for a different direction. I think Udoka and management wanted to build their own team and legacy without any distractions of the past and focus in a tough defensive and professional culture.
     
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    Yeah I know why they did it, we've got the culture, it's lovely. However, we have no chops on offense at all, and Beard would instantly provide more from the floor than our entire coaching staff is giving us from the sidelines...
     
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    True. No easy answer to me what’s the better direction. FVV is an ex champ with that gritty 2018 Toronto team. That means something don’t forget. But i see both pros and cons to both sides of the argument. The offense most definitely would open open up and flow like a fine oiled machine with Harden iso up top or running Pnr with multiple players, and cross court passes to wings and corners.
     
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    Ex-champ is overrated. Here are some more champions: Juan Toscano-Anderson, Otto Porter Jr, James Wiseman. Harden's worth more than all of them combined, regardless of not having a ring. Look, I like Fred, but let's stop with the nonsense narrative that he lead them to any kind of anything. Kawhi Leonard, Pascal Siakam, Kyle Lowry - that's the people who lead Toronto. Fred was a role player. We're hyping up Kenny Smith as if he was driving force, it's silly.
     
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    That’s the point tho

    harden is making significantly less than fvv. That klutch sports agency gets players paid
     
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    Jalen green is just as wild tho when he is off the court if you follow certain urban social media accounts. Jalen green already has 4 kids ALLEDGELY
     
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