Yup. This time Trump's VP candidate isn't some career establishment politician. It's a venture capitalist with zero beliefs. This time Trump won't have career government people like John Kelly be his chief of staff it's going to freaks and clowns like Stephen Miller. Donald Trump's only lesson he took away from his first term was "I didn't have enough yes men around me and that was my downfall". Usually presidential cabinets are staffed by the establishment political party with a certain select pool of people to choose from. Trump's first term he hired the people part of the establishment RNC pool. He's not making that mistake anymore. No establishment people who have some semblance of a desire to makile sure the system doesn't fall apart.
Exactly!!! No new Healthcare Package, couldn't repeal Obamacare No on Mexico paying for the wall No Infrastructure Bill as promised No 4% growth as promised No Paris Agreement My 401 did very well, but did MUCH better with Biden and the soaring market. What I will say is trump could not come off the rails in his first term because you had GREAT AMERICANS who would not allow it, which is why hundreds who worked for him from his VP to top Generals have said he is unfit..................but you, my keyboard warrior have much better "news" on X IMO trump is a lazy ass b**** who just wants to stay out of jail, his end game is the WH then he can relax.......he doesn't scare me one bit, he is a coward.......No, no, it's the absolute worst of the worst he will have around him, telling him what he should do and since he is a little b**** he will do whatever they ask
Yes, yes. It's the same apocalyptic rhetoric every election cycle. We got all that in 2016. We got all the GWB is Nazi. We got all the John McCain is a Nazi. This Republican administration is going to be introducing the American third reich. This time it's for real guys. This time it's gonna happen. What you actually get is fairly normal governance with a modest shift based on normal distinctions between Democratic/Republican policy positions and priorities.
Wait there were members of the Bush administration that accused Bush Jr of being a Nazi? This is a funny game though... create this ambiguous claim of former conservative presidential candidates being called Nazis as a "boy who cried wolf" argument and with a planet of 6 billion humans, there is bound to be examples to dismiss the fact that half of Trump's own staff he hired himself call him a fascist and his own former chief of staff claiming he likes Nazi generals while saying things I would never dream of Bush Jr or McCain saying like migrants are poisoning the blood of our country or making up fake claims of entire ethnic groups stealing and eating pets or calling legacy media publications like NYT "the enemy of the people" and say the enemy within needs to have the military stuck on the them. If Bush Jr or McCain had these circumstances of a plethora of people they hired themselves calling them fascists and Bush Jr and McCain said the **** Trump said in the above paragraph, yes I would call them fascists. But I never did. I'm sure you can find some rando in 2008 calling Bush Jr a Nazi or something and that is completely irrelevant to Trump being an actual fascist.
This isn't Madonna calling McCain a Nazi. Trump's former chief of staff is calling him a fascist. Really, do you see those as equivalent? Again you're missing the point. This is not the usual campaign slogans. It is unprecedented to have so many politicians in a party campaign against their former president. Many members of his own staff saying Trump is a fascist and unfit for office. Many Republicans politicians all over the country saying he is ruining democracy and is unfit for office. This is not politics as usual.
The funny game is claiming Trumps second term is going to be some Hitlerite hellscape when that same claim was made before Trumps first term and we lived through Trumps first term and it was nothing of the sort. If Trump is elected you're going to be allowed to post on Clutchfans 50 times a day and fear monger @fchowd0311 don't worry. Your life will continue as normal.
So again your defense is "Trump being a fascist won't really do much to America in terms of changing it". Why are you looping this statement? I'll engage with your current loop cycle of repeating this same claim by just repeating again why it's a stupid notion that you haven't addressed yet. Why even risk it? Why risk a human who makes blood libel claims, who's own former staff he hired has almost half of them saying he is a fascist with his own former secretary of state saying he wanted Hitler's generals. Why risk it with a man who gleefully expresses the concept of deporting 20 million humans within weeks which would result in horrifying levels of violence and ethnic cleansing? Why risk it with a man who defends blood libel claims of an entire ethnic immigrant group stealing pets and eating them with "I saw it on TV"? My goal here isn't to prove to you that if Trump is elected, in four years we will turn into Nazi Germany. My goal is to express how Trump is a fascist. If Trump is elected I'm counting on our 200+ year old institutions combating his encroachment but why risk it? To own the libs?
Risk What? I heard all this stuff before 2016. I heard this Nazi rhetoric with Bush, McCain and Romney too. I then experienced a Trump administration which didn't curtail any of your rights or freedoms. What freedoms or rights of yours were curtailed? What Nazi/Hitlerite/fascist policies did you endure under the Trump Administration? Why vote for Trump? Because half the people in this country subscribe to a more conservative version of politics. Trump, for all his faults, represents that platform and those peoples point of view far more then San Francisco liberal Kamala Harris. That's why they vote Republican and will continue to vote Republican.
One must ask themselves why a man who says he wants the generals that Hitler had, makes up false stories of entire ethnic groups stealing and eating pets and defending the claim with "I saw it on TV" or claiming that migrants are "poisoning the blood of our country(literal Nazi race science)" or having more than a quarter of his own staff he hired himself say he's a fascist represents your views. That might require a level of introspection that I'm not sure the average MAGa voter is capable of. Again we are looping. You already said this stuff so I'll just repeat what I responded to you with when you already talked about your hearing Bush Jr being called a Nazi: This is a funny game though... create this ambiguous claim of former conservative presidential candidates being called Nazis as a "boy who cried wolf" argument and with a planet of 6 billion humans, there is bound to be examples to dismiss the fact that half of Trump's own staff he hired himself call him a fascist and his own former chief of staff claiming he likes Nazi generals while saying things I would never dream of Bush Jr or McCain saying like migrants are poisoning the blood of our country or making up fake claims of entire ethnic groups stealing and eating pets or calling legacy media publications like NYT "the enemy of the people" and say the enemy within needs to have the military stuck on the them. If Bush Jr or McCain had these circumstances of a plethora of people they hired themselves calling them fascists and Bush Jr and McCain said the **** Trump said in the above paragraph, yes I would call them fascists. But I never did. I'm sure you can find some rando in 2008 calling Bush Jr a Nazi or something and that is completely irrelevant to Trump being an actual fascist.
What freedoms or rights of yours were curtailed during the Trump administration? What Nazi/Hitlerite/fascist policies did you endure under the Trump Administration? Was life so horrible cerca 2016-2020? Don't worry @fchowd0311 you'll still be allowed to post your Trump grievances 50 times a day on Clutchfans if Trump is elected. If they send you to the Gulag I'll try and get you out.
This is a funny game though.. create this ambiguous claim of former conservative presidential candidates being called Nazis as a "boy who cried wolf" argument and with a planet of 6 billion humans, there is bound to be examples to disnmiss the fact that half of Trump's Own staff he hired himself call him a fascist and his own former chief of staff claiming he likes azi generals while saying things would never dream of Bush jr or McCain saying like migrants are poisoning the blood of our cOuntry or making up fake claims of entire ethnic groups stealing and eating pets or calling legacy media publications like NYT the enemy of the people" and say the enemy within needs to have the military stuck on the them. If Bush jr or McCain had these circumstances of a plethora ofpeople they hired themselves calling them fascists and Bush jr and McCain said the **** Trump said in the above paragraph, yes would call them fascists. But never did. I'm sure you can find some rando in 2008 calling Bush Jr a Nazi or something and that is completely irrelevant to Trump being an actual fascist. Yes I'm repeating myself because you are repeating yourself. Your only defense for Trump not being a fascist is America isn't a fascist country today. I'm explaining why it's a flimsy argument to counter against the premise " is the MAGA movement a fascist movement?".
You're not answering specific, pointed and direct questions. Stop avoiding it. What's the problem? What freedoms or rights of yours were curtailed during the Trump administration? What Nazi/Hitlerite/fascist policies did you endure under the Trump Administration? Was life so horrible cerca 2016-2020? Yes, looking at any politicians first term is the first thing and the thing given most thought/weight when considering voting for them for a second term... duh...
He just admitted he didn't pay for the funeral. There were 2. The one paid for by the government and a private one not paid by the government
So you want me to express it in terms of desires he had that failed like trying to strip "media rights" or whatever that means for NBC because they were mean to him or successful inact cruelty of migrant families just looking for a below min wage job by purposefully splitting them from their children? Or should I just talk about how it took a principled vice president to tell his own president "no" in rejecting the vote counts in Congress and then receive threats of being hanged and Trump not chastising those expressions but rather expressing "disappointment" on his VP for not going along with his plan? Or what about Trump appointing supreme court justices one of which he bypassed investigations of credible sexual assault of his candidates by commanding the FBI on who specially they are allowed to interview and not interview which resulted in stripping of a right for women and their reproductive rights and a ruling that a president is above criminal liability of the crime he commits is in service of the presidency? So far the only thing you've argued for is basically "Donald Trump didn't successfully create a new fascist regime that took over the country" You haven't once engaged with the actual question: Is the maga movement a fascist movement? Were Brown shirts in the 1920s a fascist movement even though there was still a Weimar Republic A unsuccessful fascist is still a fascist. And a unsuccessful fascist is still someone who should never be anywhere close to any type of responsibility of others and power.
No. I want you to simply tell me: What freedoms or rights of yours were curtailed during the Trump administration? What Nazi/Hitlerite/fascist policies did you endure under the Trump Administration? Was life so horrible cerca 2016-2020? You have not answered the question.
So far the only thing you've argued for is basically "Donald Trump didn't successfully create a new fascist regime that took over the country" You haven't once engaged with the actual question: Is the maga movement a fascist movement? Were Brown shirts in the 1920s a fascist movement even though there was still a Weimar Republic? A unsuccessful fascist is still a fascist. And a unsuccessful fascist is still someone who should never be anywhere close to any type of responsibility of others and power.
Keep in mind, using the plethora of documented evidence from phone calls to time stamps on social media we know this about the man you are spending hours to deny is a fascist: While the US Capitol building was being ransacked and broken Into with signs and nooses expressing a desire to hang Mike Pence because he certified the election, Donald Trump while watching the riot live on TV seeing those signs with "Hang Mike Pence" being held by people breaking into the very building Pence is inside expressed a social media post expressing "disappointment" in Pence because he certified the election rather than you know.... saying that these acts by the rioters are disgusting. His most harsh words to those rioters with those "Hang Mike Pence" signs was something along the lines of "I'm proud of you people but it's time to go home". Ya the dude is a fascist through and through.
