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The 2024 Presidential Election

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  1. Andre0087

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    Now he thinks he's the Asian LBJ (president) and going nuts like most of the other MAGA worshippers...
     
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  2. Deckard

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    This person is a monster, in my opinion, one amazingly rich who likes to play. His latest "toy" is playing with our elections. His goal? Helping to install an authoritarian Fascist government in our United States of America.

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    Even in this photo you chose that is trying to make Elon look evil, he really just looks like a goofy autist.
     
  4. basso

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    what is the 2025 Jubilee?
     
  5. basso

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    he's saving the planet with Tesla
    saving NC and Ukraine with Starlink
    paving humanity's way to the stars with SpaceX

    we're all fortunate he's an American.
     
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    Election officials, concerned about misinformation, confront Elon Musk on his own turf
    But their reach on X pales in comparison to Musk's 200 million followers.

    By Laura Romero and Lucien Bruggeman
    October 24, 2024, 4:13 AM

    On a recent Sunday night in Virginia, Henrico County registrar Mark Coakley was waiting for the start of the Cowboys-Steelers NFL game that was delayed due to inclement weather.

    Coakley was scanning X, formerly known as Twitter, when he came across a post by the platform's billionaire owner, Elon Musk, who is a vocal Trump supporter. Musk had reposted a tweet from 2023 that falsely claimed that "election integrity leaders in Virginia" found fraudulent votes in Henrico County from the 2020 election.

    "Is this accurate @CommunityNotes?" Musk posted in conjunction with the tweet, engaging X's Community Notes feature that allows users themselves to fact check a tweet.

    Coakley, the county's top election official, scrambled to respond. On Monday morning, the Henrico County's X account debunked the premise of Musk's posts in a five-post thread.

    "They were uninformed tweets," Coakley recalled in an interview with ABC News. "Media was calling, friends were calling me."

    The challenge for Coakley: While Musk's initial post has garnered 27.7 million views, Coakley's response has received fewer than 100,000. It's a contemporary spin on the old adage that a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes.

    As Musk has continued to promote false and misleading election information on X, election officials have increasingly confronted him on his own platform. But their reach typically pales in comparison to Musk's 200 million followers.

    "It's just not a fair battle," said Larry Norden, a voting expert at the Brennan Center for Justice, a nonprofit think tank.

    In Philadelphia, Musk reposted a tweet suggesting that 5,200 voters had registered with the same address. "This is crazy," Musk commented.

    Seth Bluestein, a Philadelphia County Commissioner, replied hours later, tweeting, "The post you shared is spreading disinformation."

    But while Musk's initial tweet drew nearly 10 million views, Bluestein's response garnered fewer than 10,000.

    Even some Republican officials have confronted Musk on X. Stephen Richer, the GOP recorder in Maricopa County, Arizona, has regularly quarreled with Musk online over alleged election misinformation targeting the state -- and has even offered to connect with Musk in person.

    "On every previous post you've made about Arizona elections (all of which have been wrong, but you've never corrected any of them), I've offered my office as a resource to you (and anyone) who wants actual answers to these questions," Richer told Musk in a post in September.

    Sam Woolley, a disinformation researcher at the University of Pittsburgh, said Musk has treated X as his own "bully pulpit" to support Trump and denigrate the election system since taking control of the company in 2022.

    "This is certainly a case of a very powerful individual using not only his ownership of the platform but also his ability to control massive swaths of engagement on the platform for his own benefit and for the benefit of his political allies," Woolley said.

    Not only are the misinformation narratives promoted by Musk "corrosive to democracy," Norden said, but the time and energy required to rebut them might actually undermine election officials' ability to execute their other election-related work.

    "It's distracting," Norden said. "We are putting a huge load on election officials, and if, on top of that, they have to respond to a guy who boosts his own content on his own network to spread lies, it's distracting from the essential work that they need to do. That is troubling."

    Musk did not respond to a request for comment from ABC News.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/election-...on-confront-elon-musk-turf/story?id=114866909
     
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    He is making SHITTY Quality cars with Telsa, He is not saving the Ukraine with Starlink and the only reason SpaceX is successful is the rocket scientist that work there.
     
  8. basso

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    who pays the rocket scientists?
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    Do you praise Al Gore or the computer engineers and scientists who developed the Internet?

    Do you credit the politicians who greenlit NASA or the NASA scientists and engineers that got humans to the moon?

    Do you credit John B Goodenough for developing the lithium ion battery or the university administrators that hired him to do research and be a professor on their campus?
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    This part of the piece is the most important:
    The challenge for Coakley: While Musk's initial post has garnered 27.7 million views, Coakley's response has received fewer than 100,000. It's a contemporary spin on the old adage that a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes.”

    It explains a lot of why we are where we are. Just look at Clutchfans. A lot of stuff gets posted here that is easily debunked only to be followed with several more posts of alarmist and / or false content.
     
  11. El_Conquistador

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    How many fascists are looking to DRAMATICALLY REDUCE the size of government? Do you just repeat what the government-controlled media tells you? The fascism taunt literally makes zero sense. Unless you are referring to Democrat rule, which employs censorship and media propaganda, pushes for forever war, and punishes political opponents -- all central tenets of fascism.
     
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    Exactly. Musk is pumping out an enormous number of outright lies, busy deceiving those foolish enough to follow his self serving madness.
     
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  13. Nook

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    Most of them - when you are talking about removing checks and balances and non political positions.

    I don’t really see Musk as a fascist though, he mostly wants to do whatever will help his wealth and power grow - which means removing regulation at all costs.

    He should stick at ideas and building companies - he is great at that. When it comes to morality or understanding people or governance - he is clueless. There is a reason we didn’t have Henry Ford making all the decisions in the 1930’s.
     
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  14. Nook

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    He is. Many listening know it is lies but don’t care because they support his political positions… however, it does influence the everyone ultimately.

    Elon Musk and Bill Gates need to stay out of politics. The Supreme Court could fix a lot of this if they wanted to.
     
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    Democrats want to consolidate power in the hands of the deep state — the massive web of unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats, members of media, and lobbyists. This is fascism. Trump wants the opposite — to create a check and balance by restoring leadership to elected officials — I believe there’s a name for this. Oh yes, Democracy.

    Forever wars, no accountability for leaders, censoring and imprisoning your political adversaries, installing your unelected candidate… all the mark of fascists. Democrats.

    GOOD DAY
     
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  16. rocketsjudoka

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    Trump has said he’s going to give Musk a position in his administration. That means that Musk who has many contracts with the government will be in position to both interfere with regulations governing his business even while government pays him.
     
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  17. rocketsjudoka

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    I believe the name for the above is “projection”.
     
  18. Nook

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    You are kinder than I - I believe we call it bullshit where I am from.
     
  19. El_Conquistador

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    Trump wants to destroy the deep state. Literally the opposite of what the Dems want to do… and also the opposite of fascism.

    it is shocking to me how many people still believe the Russia/Hitler government-controlled media attacks on Trump. So so gullible and naive!
     
  20. peleincubus

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    just a bunch of subjective crap. are you getting too old to debate actual specific policy now? tsk tsk
     

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