I mean thats the part that mirrors Hitler rhetoric. While I don’t know if Trump would exterminate a group of people, I do think he would use the military to deport them.
@basso as far as Kelly’s timing the election is close and he thinks Trump a danger to our democracy wannabe dictator. He is doing his duty like you do your military duty on this site. he ain’t hiding behind ****
Thinly sourced? You mean other than Kelly saying that Trump has said the exact same things to him before and multiple times? That he wants General's like Hitler's Generals. Witnesses that said it did not happen? Which part - the article covers a lot of ground. Are you talking about the part where Trump supposedly got pissed that he said he would personally help out on the funeral costs and then was supposedly irate it was $60,000? Because NO ONE, including the writer of the article is claiming that Trump was nasty in front of the family - the question is whether he later, away from the family said he was being taken advantage of. I don't know if he said it or not. Trump relies upon a current employee that states Trump never said it - which is silly, no one can claim Trump never said it - only that they never heard him say it. At this point the problem for Trump is that he has a long and well documented history of talking poorly about the military, veterans, POWs and dead veterans - so the public isn't going to give him the benefit of the doubt - especially with Kelly coming forward. FWIW I don't think it changes anything - people already know how Trump is and what his good and bad points are - this isn't a scandal for him.
Yeah - if it politically helps him - he will deport them all. I am not saying Trump is some virtuous man - he isn't, but he is mostly interested in the rhetoric more than the actual punishment of groups of people.... he will do it if it helps him, but he isn't like Hitler - who did it no matter what.
What indication was there that Hitler would just move past rhetoric? What indication is there that Trump doesn’t think these people are poisoning the blood and it’s just political?
On the one hand: Hitler and his crew had pretty fervent beliefs about the superiority of one type of people over other types. Trump is ultimately -- based on evidence -- just all about seeing himself as superior. He does have racial animus, but is much more animated by people who criticize him. On the other hand: Any rhetoric (by any political group, including the far left too) that dehumanizes another group of people (e.g. libtards, magats, etc.) has historically served as a dangerous step. It's much easier to hurt and even kill people once you see them as literally not as human as your team.
Anyone who embraces racist groups in the manner Trump does is a bit more than “all about himself”. It’s not just Trump, but look at the people who he let’s into his circle and be a part of his campaign and administration. Again, I don’t think Trump is looking to exterminate a race or ethnicity but….
There wasn't really any indication that Hitler would move past his rhetoric. There were periods of time before he was in power that he would back off his rhetoric against the Jews when it politically was hurting him. Well - concerning immigrants, I don't think that Trump really likes them - but I don't think he is going to send them to camps either. It was a very short period of time after Hitler was in power where he started punishing Jews and communists. Also - before Hitler was in power, he was already having people killed. I won't be voting for Trump - I think that Trump has done tremendous harm to the country.... I believe he will do anything that will help him politically, including deportations.... but I don't think that he immigrants are his burning passion.
Some of the animosity and political positions of Trump are a result of him being surrounded by weirdos that could not get jobs in the Republican establishment. When those that are in the establishment are brought in, they typically don't last long because Trump wants chaos.... he thrives in chaos. There is no doubt that Bannon and Miller and others have influenced Trump - who isn't a dyed in the wool idealogue.
this doesn't hit the way you think it does. media distrust is at an all time high, and the Hitler gambit has been played so many times literally no-one believes it, including the people hawktuahing all over it in this thread. the biggest problem problem for dems and the media (but I repeat myself) is they still don't understand Trumps appeal, and why baseless hit jobs like these fail to land.
Ohh I think I know exactly how it hits; in this thread I said this isn't a scandal for Trump this is a one day news cycle story. People already know who Trump is and isn't and they have already made up their mind on him. I agree with you on this point with the Democrats. There are some like Bernie Sanders and John Fetterman that get his appeal - and get that the Democrats no longer can stake claim to representing or speaking for blue collar America.
Is this a big surprise of Donny getting caught in quotes? Pays lipservice to military as long as it aggrandizes himself as Commander in Chief while shittting on servicemen of any rank in private. Does a fake day Old McDonald's like it's a Halloween costume for his mouthbreather cohorts to joke as One of Them while shittting on overtime pay and ramble about screwing over blue collar workers with Elon on X.
