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People that talk about Trump supporters are usually racists and classists

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  1. fchowd0311

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    He's saying that believing Trump supporters are racist is racist.

    Calling someone white trash is racist. That isn't the claim I'm arguing against because it's a claim I agree with.
     
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  2. fchowd0311

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    Right wingers treat political identity like ethnic or racial identity.

    "How dare you make blanket assumptions about.....




    A political movement centered around a single man".

    Well why yes making blanket statements about political ideological movements centered around a cult of personality is one of the few times making blanket statements about groups of people isn't bigoted.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    Also wouldn't the side that blames all economic and social problems on the most powerless groups like migrants the ones who are classists?

    Aren't elite classists going to knee jerk blame lower classes for the problems of society?
     
  4. pgabriel

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    You think white trash is an acceptable term? I know a lot of people do

    Let's say you had another insult for uneducated blacks besides the n word that' was just saying uneducated black.

    Would it be acceptable?
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    If I say something is racist the implication is I think it's not acceptable.
     
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    I think it's funny you're talking about foreign bots "creating divisions" when look at the rhetoric you and people like you constantly spew about half the country.

    It's not bots creating divisions. It's you. You're the one creating this cancerous atmosphere.
     
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  7. HTM

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    Left wing attacks on people to the right of them being racist, homophobic nazi's occurred before Trump and will occur after Trump.

    They are largely responsible for the charged atmosphere in the country.

    Not "foreign actors" - take a look in the mirror as to why **** is so toxic these days.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    No it's people who target hate towards powerless people like migrants being paid under minimum wage and also believe at face value entire ethnic groups in America are stealing pets and eating them.

    You got a lot of "liberal media in 1920s energy" that were more angry at things like organized labor movements over right wing nationalist movements that ended up being fascist parties like the Nazi party.


    Supporting Donald Trump in2025 is different than supporting Mott Romney or John McCain. There was plausible deniability of racism with those type of candidates with Trump there is no plausible deniability with racism. He's very upfront about it. The dude says **** like migrants are "poisoning he blood of our country"

    Can you make someone who isn't racist who believes non white immigrants are poisoning the blood of a country?
     
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    Get ready for a lot of ugliness coming out from wokes - This is what they do when they are sensing they are losing- Trump Is trending well right now in early voting-
     
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  10. fchowd0311

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    Foreign actors aren't responsible for the latent racism amongst a voting bade that politicians like Trump weaponize so they don't have to explain to their voters what their health care policy is.

    Foreign actors definitely try to twist the knife and accelerate the division with spamming stupid easily defeatable talking points on social media. This is something wildly covered and documented.
     
  11. HTM

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    lol - lmao even.

    Ok, keep doing what you're doing, keep calling everyone a racist, homophobic, nazi and wondering why the national discourse is so toxic.

    It's the foreign bots!

    Not you. Never you. No accountability.
     
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    I can hardly wait to see what the D&D looks like on November 6.
    I honestly don't know what will be more exciting watching Steve Kornaki election night or coming here on Wednesday.
    I will have my popcorn and a Tito's.
     
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  13. fchowd0311

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    Sees an entire political party that uses blood libel, uses migrants as scapegoats they direct hate towards because they are too lazy to discuss actual policy and think calling that behavior out is toxic.

    Who are you trying to fool?
     
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    The thing is you have that privilege. I have close family members who fear deportation because they are currently working on their immigration status and are undocumented cruelty but have built a productive life in America.

    Thanks for showing the privlige you have in these elections having zero effect on your life outside of entertainment.
     
  15. HTM

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    Don't pretend it starts and ends with Trump.

    You and people like you have been driving these racist/homophobic/nazi narratives for decades.

    Then you wonder why everything is so toxic.

    That's what happens when you call people things like that for decades.
     
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    If your family members are here illegally they should be deported.
     
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    It starts and ends with people who use racism and dehumanization of migrants to hand wave discussing things like healthcare policy, infrastructure policy etc because of laziness and a desire to obtain power for the sake of obtaining power and people like you who believe calling that behavior out as what causes division.

    No what causes division is a presidential candidate making up stories of entire ethnic groups staling pets and eating them.

    What causes division is a presidential candidate stating that migrants are "POISONING THE BLOOD OF OUR COUNTRY".
     
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    It is mainstream to talk about and use the word white trash. It’s not acceptable and is racially driven is my point. And because people hate Trump enough it’s fine to use it

    if anything dems opening their eyes to this would prevent a 2016. You don’t alienate all these people
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    I think this type of medium of a message board online strips basic empathy skills away from people where people like you actually sat done and had dinner with the members of my family I'm referring to and they explained their background situation etc you wouldn't have the ability to tell them they deserve to be deported to their face and not because of fear of violence but the shame you'd feel in saying something like that to a human to their face.
     
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    I’m not sure where you got that from. I stated a simple fact - trump does well with non college educated white males, particularly in rural areas.
    And I asked if that’s racist or classist for me to raise that factual point, which I think is universally undisputed.

    Not once (or twice) did I label any group “white trash”. I think the term is, among other things, lazy, imprecise and rude/ugly.

    If someone wants to associate that term with the education level of a cohort of white people, that’s on them. I have often that term used to associate with a set of behaviors, or physical appearance, and/or people who live in certain areas, both urban and rural. But it’s rude and far too amorphous to be useful.

    It seems like maybe people are sensitive to the fact that non college educated white males are predominantly Trump supporters. It so, that sensitivity is a their issue, not mine.
     
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