Too invested in that you've spent multiple posts over 3+ hours insisting it must be a lie and that presumed lie is part of a larger pattern of lying. But also that this whole McD affair isn't even an issue of any electoral consequence and will be forgotten tomorrow for some other bs. This thread has multiple rebuttals from you insisting that her unproven lying is actually very meaningful for what sort of leader we might be getting, when actually it doesn't mean much at all. If it's a lie at all (which I doubt), it's a regular politician's lie, not even one of those big, brazen MAGA lies I'm supposed to take seriously but not literally. Great, now I'm over-invested.
They make a good point. But, to my line of thinking. You can't be the truthful candidate if you are caught lying. Do not under any circumstances think I am confusing the level of severity of the lies to those of Trump. Who rolls out of bed lying. but if you are the non-lying nominee and you get caught. lying, well that makes you no better than Trump in some folk's eyes. PS. Is there anyone on here that does not think either of our candidates are lying insistently on a daily basis? I don't want to know who lies more or more severely, that's not what I'm asking. I just want to know who thinks the nominees are telling the truth more than let's say 80% of the time.
No one that isn’t really politically biased gives a **** about Kamala Harris working a job 44 years ago one summer. She certainly didn’t have a silver spoon in her mouth when it came to college… even if she came from the toughest neighborhood and was a ditch digger, that was 44 years ago. Indeed the only person with an ounce of blue collar in all of this is Tim Walz. When people have nothing else to talk about or attack over - they worry about stupid **** like someone’s summer job 44 years ago or whether Trump was really serving people at his McDonalds appearance. This election has been a toss up ever since Harris was in the race. She has the popular vote advantage and Trump has the EC college advantage. Turnout - especially in 5-6 states will decide the election - not whether Trump is an old man or whether Harris has a strange laugh. Everything else is political diarrhea.
Keith - agree on your first point. No- most people do not have hard copy tax return from 45 years ago. A few people are meticulous like that, but most are not - and my accountants years ago said keep 7 years of returns.
So I'm 'too invested' for discussing this, but the folks defending Kamala for hours are getting a pass? Interesting. Seems like there's a double standard here. Also, talking about this for a few hours isn't any different than spending hours posting during a Rockets or Texans game right? I'm just saying I don’t buy her story, and suddenly it’s a big issue. Meanwhile, the real question is how this stuff plays in key areas like the Philly suburbs in a critical state Kamala NEEDS, but I guess that's not as interesting?
Every single politician lies and exaggerates. Even “Honest Abe” and Washington did. Does Harris tell the truth over 80% of the time? I don’t know. Who is they?
My friends say I'm meticulous. My wife says I'm lazy with discarding things. Kind of sums up the election. I have the OCD vote locked up if I ever run.
Didn't they also run the cafeteria (or whatever it was called) in Moody Towers? That's where I met my girlfriend at the time.
Harris needs strong support in Philadelphia and the suburbs - I don’t think anyone gives a **** about McDonalds though.
We have trolls and Joseph Goebbels on this bbs but no one here is truly that dense. They will keep on posting in bad faith as long as people react or reply. Ignore and the spamming will stop.
You do you. I observed you're too invested, but it's your right to do so. So go on, even though I think you're being ridiculous. I'm not actually handing out passes. I think you've picked your team and consciously or unconsciously, you'll magnify whatever rhetoric Trump is pitching while insisting it's from your own free thinking. Claiming to have worked at McD's doesn't usually evoke accusations of 'stolen valor' and people never demand proof, ordinarily. Because whether it is true or not, it's just a rhetorical gimmick anyway. Most people are not like the lawyer/DA/Senator/VP even if you did both work at McDonald's once. You would not have even thought to disbelieve it had Trump not cast doubt on it in the first place. He saw political advantage in attacking basic stuff in her resume just like he has all the way back to birtherism. He's gaslighting voters, saying Kamala isn't one of you like he is. He's the only one that really understands you. So he said she is lying about something basic and now you're concerned about it. So now if the real question is how well is the gaslighting working in the Philly suburbs, well I don't know. How well is the gaslighting working over there? Is there polling yet? Has Trump said it's working tremendously?
Well right now Trump is pulling crowds in the thousands, bigger than any single recent Harris rally, to the streets in those Philly suburbs. That was not the point breh
Looks like you're getting a bit too worked up over this. I'm just pointing out the obvious double standard and how these politicians are the same. Nothing more.
Trump says he is looking for a job. TRUE. Trump says he has always wanted to work at McDonalds ... FALSE. ... but I never did. TRUE. Trump says that Kamala has never worked at a McDonalds. Likely FALSE, since Dementia Don has no proof. Trump still has not worked at a McDonalds, since this is only a photo op at a closed McDonalds. I fully expect Trump now to say that he has worked at a McDonalds, which is provably FALSE.
Only reason I have mine are because its what I do for a living and they are saved in my paperless system. I was curious to look, but I did not save my W-2 from Wal-Mart when I was 20, but I do have the return. And technically I wasn't required to file a tax return then, I just had so much federal tax withheld despite having marked exempt on my paperwork, but Walmart's HR sucked. I'm sure they have an employee portal today. As often as my clients ask me for copies of their returns, I'm guessing most of them aren't keeping any of them. At least not handy.
What double standard? Trump said she was lying with no evidence and so now everyone has to scrutinize her claim? Trump meant it rhetorically -- serious but not literal -- and now you're taking it literally. Trump had no way of factually knowing whether or not she worked McDonalds decades ago, even if he did bother to (have staff) research it. At best, he could size her up as "not the kind of person" who would have worked there. It was just a rhetorical launching pad for his working-the-drive-thru campaign stunt. You're supposed to take the implication that she didn't work 'regular jobs' like you supposedly have (and nevermind that Trump was born rich), so you can't identify with her. But, you've taken it too far, demanding an end to the double standard where Kamala can 'tell lies' about her past as if there was anything in evidence that would suggest it was a lie. Actually, there is nothing wrong with the media letting this claim go by without in-depth investigative journalism seeking to prove a negative, and there is nothing wrong with voters taking her at her word that she once worked at McD. Your double-standard, at least in this case, is a ridiculous accusation. Okay, take the last word because I need to pack up and go anyway. I'm not much interested in whether the McD story is true or false, nor am I much interested in how it plays in the Philly suburbs. But, I do worry for my brothers in my bbs community who can hear this kind of stuff from Trump and run with it, and get so twisted up in their reasoning that they accuse other people of some failing of character for not agreeing.
